Will i EVER get faster?

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by mbkri, Nov 12, 2021.

  1. mbkri

    mbkri Country Gent

    Sep 22, 2012
    I have notived that reducing the pressure of my palm mute helps speed things up. I will have a go with the left hand damping too
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  2. dswo

    dswo Electromatic

    Apr 8, 2017
    East Carolina
    I've been working on "Stairway to Heaven" since Jan. 2020. I could play most of the parts at speed by April or May of 2020, but the long solo is still out of reach. I can do a (slightly) simplified version at 85%, but faster than that and I start making mistakes. Using more gain allows a lighter touch (as has been recommended here), and I'm retraining myself to use pull-offs for some of the notes at the beginning. Don't want to be a quitter, but I'm starting to wonder whether it's time to learn something else. (Which I usually am -- just not to the same level of polish.)
  3. mdahearn

    mdahearn Electromatic

    May 13, 2020
    I have the same challenge with tremolo picking. Got lots of advice and technique from great teachers but Miserlou at speed on the low E string isn’t happening. I’m naturally right handed but play lefty because I was a pianist before learning guitar..on piano left hand is for rhythm and right hand does individual note soloing so made sense in that way when I picked up guitar. Am I screwed because my picking hand isn’t my dominant hand? I love surf music, can handle the melodic tunes no prob (Apache, Walk Don’t Run, Pipeline) but the pure tremolo tunes at high consistent speed seem out of reach, I for a while was very diligent with gradual metronome slow to faster practice but just seemed to hit a wall at a certain BPM, around 140.
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  4. GVDobler

    GVDobler Synchromatic

    May 15, 2011
    Las Vegas
    I just read that Miserlou was an old folk song (Greek or something) before Dick Dale got hold of it. Who knew?

    “Misirlou” is a folk song from the Eastern Mediterranean region, with origins in the Ottoman Empire. While Nicolas Roubinas copyrighted the song, the actual composer of the song is unknown. Arabic, Greek and Jewish musicians were playing it by the 1920s. The song gained worldwide popularity through Dick Dale’s 1962 American surf rock version.
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  5. NJDevil

    NJDevil Country Gent

    Jul 9, 2014
    Commack, NY
    It's crazy to try and figure out. Playing downstrokes at fast speeds isn't a problem at all as well as covering surf and Dick Dale material. It just isn't happening though with my Johnny Winter non-slide material......the stuff he uses the Erlewine Lazer for.

    It's where I follow the advice from a Dirty Harry movie....."A man's got to know his limitations." So play Johnny Winter stuff by staying in my lane. I know part of it has to do with his style of thumb + index finger attack. So this falls into the area of playing to my style of an artist I really like instead of trying to sound like that guitarist.
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  6. Craig Encinitas

    Craig Encinitas Gretschie

    May 3, 2021
    Encinitas, Ca
    I can play fast, but it’s all dirty sloppy strumming and picking.

    My question, “Will I ever clean up my act?:confused:

    I can be practicing scales, simply going up and down the same string, and I’ll strum an adjacent one. This happens all time. What I’ve started doing, is looking at my right hand, and going by feel and hear with the left hand.

    It sort of helps. Since I’m not giving up on learning, the only way to get better at it, is to get better at it.o_O
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  7. dlew919

    dlew919 Country Gent

    Jul 18, 2016
    Sydney, Australia
    Lots and lots of great advice here.

    Try relaxing your wrist, though... it might just push you over to the speed you need. Don't tense up - relax.

    And if it doesn't work, don't worry. Every time you play music you make the world a better place.
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  8. mbkri

    mbkri Country Gent

    Sep 22, 2012
    Definitely helps to relax everything, including my jaw! I have noticed a good improvement in just four days of concerted practice of the technique in isolation (not in a song). I think I’m approaching 340 chops per minute with decent control. Still have a tendency to tense up which I feel in my bicep after a minute or so.
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  9. NowEarThis

    NowEarThis Gretschie

    Jun 23, 2021
    Northern Rivers NSW Australia
    Nothing wrong with that.
  10. GAMBLER1234

    GAMBLER1234 Gretschie

    Jan 18, 2018
    Henderson Nevada
    No if that hasn't happened already you most likely will not get faster. However what I can guarantee you at the age of 74 is that if you continue to pay your dues you most certainly will get better and when it's all said and done isn't that what it's all about?
  11. sgarnett

    sgarnett Synchromatic

    Apr 14, 2020
    BB King wasn’t fast at all.
  12. mbkri

    mbkri Country Gent

    Sep 22, 2012
    But Chris Shiflett is. I’m not a fast player. Just wanting to do something a bit faster than I can.
  13. GAMBLER1234

    GAMBLER1234 Gretschie

    Jan 18, 2018
    Henderson Nevada
    They call him slow hand for good reason.

  14. dmunson

    dmunson Gretschie

    Dec 19, 2015
    Charlotte, NC
    Original post was early this month. So, is the poster is not any faster by now, he's been spending too much time on the forum and not enough time on the guitar.
    I do the same thing from time to time. Like now !!
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  15. mbkri

    mbkri Country Gent

    Sep 22, 2012
    Ha ha! Yes. Id be a much better player and husband and painter and father if i didnt spend so much time on the forum!
    Im sitting at a decently accurate and consistent 167 bpm (334 downstrokes per minute) over a minute. Thats up from 155 last week when i started the timed excercise.
    Im actually pretty amazed that ive acheived so much by applying myself to the excercise instead of just playing it badly.
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