Why old amps soun d better than new ones

Discussion in 'Ampage Area' started by Winnie Thomas, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. Winnie Thomas

    Winnie Thomas Gretschie

    Jun 13, 2011
    Cochise AZ
    It's a known fact that amps run on smoke. When the smoke gets let out, the amp stops working.

    What people forget is that when the old amps were built, they were built by smokers, so extra smoke got into the amps during assembly. Also, bars were always filled with smoke in the old days, so new smoke was added each time the amp was in a bar. If the amp belonged to a house band then, of course, the amp would be constantly receiving extra smoke making it superior to one that spent it's time in a closet or attic.

    New amps are built in smoke free environments and played in smoke-free environments, so it's a no-brainer why old ones sound so much better.
  2. TSims1

    TSims1 Gretschified

    Jun 18, 2013
  3. speedicut

    speedicut Friend of Fred

    Jun 5, 2012
    My 1969 Fender Vibrolux coughed up a lung the other night! :eek::)
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  4. musicman100

    musicman100 Country Gent

    Aug 15, 2008
  5. Mal Belford

    Mal Belford Gretschie

    Apr 4, 2016
  6. guitarmike

    guitarmike Gretschie

    Oct 13, 2015
    Yes! And a smoker cough better than a non-smoker!
  7. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Gretschified

    Oct 18, 2015
    Interesting theory, Winnie.
    My opinion towards vintage amps is that over the years they will simply run out of notes.
    But it is an easy fix: Just retube them. In every tube there are several thousand new notes. It is a simple refill.
    Have you ever tried out an aluminium hat? I wear it under my basketball-cap.
    They will never control my brain, never..:confused::p
    I am off to to meet my weekly chemtrails-group...
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  8. Dead Roman

    Dead Roman Country Gent

    Dec 22, 2015
    Smoke diversity is key.

    Id like to let the smoke out of some of willie nelsons amps... If you know what I mean.
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  9. Outlaw

    Outlaw Synchromatic

    Jul 13, 2011
    It's not the cough that carries you off, it's the coffin they carry you off in.
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  10. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    That isn't diesel fumes coming from his bus.
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  11. Staggerlee

    Staggerlee Country Gent

    Jul 19, 2012
    Twin Cities
    I think its a bit simpler than that. Old amps have been around for longet and have had more practice, that's all.
  12. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Gretschified

    Oct 18, 2015
    To get serious on this theme: As old Gretsches and other 50ies -late 60ies instruments old "quality" amps were all somehow more or less improvised individual builts with always slightly changing parts. Depending on what was available at the time and who held the soldering iron. That is why original speciems differ on the grand scale from each other even when built within the same batch.
    It is partly snake-oil and partly deeply assured gut-feeling that they are simply superior to most amps built today.
    I believe.
    Last edited: Jul 14, 2016
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  13. Wozob

    Wozob Country Gent

    Jul 6, 2014
    The Netherlands
    Interesting theory. I just burned my new amp to accelerate the process to sound good. Might have overdone it.
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  14. jagROAR_63

    jagROAR_63 Gretschie

    Apr 20, 2016
    just started smoking - thanks for information. My amps will soon sound even better :D
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  15. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Gretschified

    Oct 18, 2015
    If you do this you have a good chance to not survive your amps vintage- status. Do not do it, friend. (Says your chainsmoking LnL)
  16. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

    Dec 1, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    The guys that made my hand-built amps in the '60s were definitely smoking SOMETHING while they worked. Guess the Rasta tea-cosy hats they wore should have been a giveaway. :eek::eek::eek:
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  17. blc45

    blc45 Country Gent

    Aug 23, 2011
    It may not be all smoke. It might be due to old electricity they ran thru them along with bad building wiring. They don't make electricity like they used to.
  18. David_D

    David_D Gretschie

    Oct 14, 2015
    New Jersey
    The 3 day-old-lasagna theory applied to amps....interesting.
  19. Gretschtim1

    Gretschtim1 Country Gent

    Dec 4, 2012
    Dundalk, Md
    I never heard of that theory.
    Lasagna never lasts that long around here - 2 days at the most...:)
  20. LivingMyDream

    LivingMyDream Friend of Fred

    I thought it was all the incense and groovy vibes that took those older amps into "special" status.
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