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Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by bdub415, Jul 28, 2020.
In fact they are true multi-purpose-weapons.
Old school clean to modern high gain.
Not to me; it's the very reason I have played guitar for 36+ years.
I agree. It’s the guitar sound I had imagined since my earliest days playing.
The “Great Gretsch Sound” description goes back a long way in Gretsch guitar history. I’m pretty certain that they were using it in the acoustic archtop days.
ooohh yes, yes!
here's summa dat GREAT GRETSCH SOUND, unfreakin deniable Great Gretsch here. It changed the EARTH. Gretsch with filtertrons and a vox ac30
If I liked the beatles which I hate, this would be my favorite song. But its not. Stupid Beatles.
As absolutely striking this time as it was when I first heard it in 1964. Very simple, but spot on.
I have a luthier friend in Japan who specializes in period-correct Fender builds. You have probably seen my 1954-spec Tele and Mary Kaye Stratocaster. He is such a stickler for accuracy he also winds his own pickups. When I was in Osaka in 2009 I saw my Mary Kaye under construction, along with a several other guitars. At dinner that night I casually asked in conversation: "In your opinion, which is the best pickup ever made?" Without hesitation, he replied: " vintage Gretsch Filtertrons"
Then you wisely choose your friends
Amazing for the crappiest band that every existed, I get choked up at how miserable they make me feel. Yesterday, is probably the worst song I've ever heard.
I think you have hit the nail on the head. The filtertron is an odd shape and size. Most similar to a p90 or mini humbucker in length and width but much deeper. This makes it an awkward retro fit. It isn’t even consistent among Filtertrons as some mount on the bezel some mount on the body.
This makes it a pain for manufacturers and guitar builders who are set up to route for the 2 industry standards. Strat sized single coils and Gibson style humbuckers.
Gretsch and Filtertrons do Rockabilly better than any other AND they do everything else exceptionally well.
I couldn’t agree more. The tragedy, of course, was that those guys could have contributed so much more to society had they gotten mundane jobs.
That's the thing about paradigms--people announce they 'discovered' something in guitardom because they weren't exposed to it before. If the 'industry standard' is Gibson/Seth HBs and Strat single coils, it's because of those old rigid paradigms during the 'golden age' of electric guitar. Those matter less and less today. I'm not trying to be a contrarian, not trying to say anybody is wrong in their experience, but lets be honest, the thread title is preaching to the choir here
FWIW, manufacturers have no problem routing whatever guitar for whatever pickup they choose. Any builder worth his/her salt can route for Charlie Christian pickups, real DeArmond/Dynasonics, and Filtertrons with or without a ring. DIY-ers also have it easy nowadays to mod to Filtertrons/Dynas etc. Vast amount of options from TVJ for one, and there are lots of threads here describing how to do it with less, using simple tools, or a few new mounting products from GFS and Philly Luthier. Saying to be helpful, because I know there are a contingent of players that love Gretsch pickups but rather have boring Strat/Gibson LP guitars (easy now you Gibson-Strat guys ). Not for me, I want my Gretsch guitars, foibles and all, nothing else will do
At the manufacturer's level, there would be no problem mounting Filters on just about any imaginable guitar. Of course, Gibson isn't about to promote Gretsch pickups. With Fender, it is a bit different, because of their affiliation with Gretsch.
Fortunately, TV Jones provides some great support for mounting their Filtertron style pickups to just about anything,
Another reason may be that Filtertrons are perceived as being weak pickups with low output.
I used to have an arrogant teenage Guitar student who knew Everything and told me my Gretsch Filtertrons were too weak for ‘serious rock’ (EMO apparently). He’d read online that the ohmage was pretty low on Filtertrons and thought that was all you needed to know.
After unplugging his PRS SE I plugged in my Gretsch and Proved him extremely wrong! My guitar was definitely louder.
It shut the little squirt up.
I´d say filtertrons AND dynasonics
There´s soo much that´s much worse than the beatles LOL
Agree re: striking but to my ears, very different than how that same setup/combination (AC30& Gent) would sound in the Abbey Road studio with Neumann U47 (?). My guess, the Albert Hall venue, the mics used there, as well as the amplifiers bleeding into the vocal mics combined with mic'ed amplifiers through the PA system (if that makes any sense).
I'd say the Beatles are possibly the worst thing to ever happen to music, and if I had a solid collection of their recordings, which I dont... They would be kept in the basement covered in old dirty rags.
One reason why they were sick of trying to continue playing live, the crowds were too large and the pa systems and their equipment couldnt sustain anything worth
playing, let alone being able to hear themselves sing. Or so I've heard, I dont know anything about that wretched band.