What's your tuner setting?

Discussion in 'Fred's Barcalounge' started by JeffreyLeePierre, Jun 15, 2021.

What's the frequency you use for A

  1. 440

    39 vote(s)
    100.0%
  2. 442

    0 vote(s)
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  3. I use my ears

    0 vote(s)
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  1. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Country Gent

    As I'm configuring my new smartphone, I have downloaded again the great Universal Tuner app and I was wondering which frequency is the most used for A among Gretsch-Talk members.

    I have set mine at 440.
     
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  2. Archtops

    Archtops Synchromatic

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    Mar 4, 2021
    SoCal
  3. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
  4. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    I tune to mu EP. It's fixed at 440 Hz, the industry standard.
     
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  5. MotorCentaur

    MotorCentaur Synchromatic

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    May 11, 2016
    Seattle
    My old/ex neighbors/friends were all into the woo. The female half really bought into the 432, then the male half followed. Like it was ridiculous, they believed 440 was the work of **** propagandists to keep us all from being in tune with the cosmos. "432 is the answer, here look at this tray of water vibrating at 432", they said. I tried explaining to them that you could get the same result by tuning the size of the tray to match 440.

    The concept of equal temperament (what makes instruments able to play in all keys) and how it is applied to the fretboard was lost upon them. Along with equal temperament destroying any claim to purity of tones, let alone the arbitrary length of a second.
     
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  6. oneforsorrow

    oneforsorrow Synchromatic

    571
    May 15, 2020
    Iowa
    I once mentioned the 432 thing to my wife after somebody asked me about it (we live in the center of the Transcendental Meditation movement—Fairfield, IA).

    She replied something to the effect of spending her life in classical music and tuning to 440 all those years and divorce if I were interested in pursuing it :).
     
  7. juks

    juks Synchromatic

    725
    Nov 26, 2020
    Fremont, California
    There's a difference between 440 and 442?

    I use one of those head stock tuners, no idea what it is set to.
     
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  8. Gretschmen65

    Gretschmen65 Country Gent

    May 20, 2016
    QLD Australia
    Even those usually have a button to display tuning and up/down arrows to adjust.
     
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  9. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Country Gent

    Pretty amazed that all answers (currently) are 440. 30 years ago, we always were playing at 442 with the band. Did that change? Have we been wrong all these years?

    Yes there is, kinda like when the bass player is not in tune :D
     
  10. DougWheeler74

    DougWheeler74 Gretschie

    413
    Jul 10, 2019
    NE Wisconsin, US
    I was told by a person who studied choral music history that before standard tuning village and town choirs would tune to themselves. They sounded fine but when singing with choirs from other towns it would sound off. If your entire band tuned to 442 I would wager that most people wouldn't notice it. If one of the band tuned to 440 it would sound off.
     
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  11. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    Atlanta
    We who?
     
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  12. T Bone

    T Bone Country Gent

    Interesting question. Always used 440, should I be trying 442 for some reason? And what's with 432?
     
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  13. Sid Nitzerglobin

    Sid Nitzerglobin Country Gent

    Jun 8, 2015
    fROMOHIO
    440 "sweetened" or just plain 440
     
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  14. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Country Gent

    My band back in the XXth century.

    (Curious? Samples available here:
    https://m.soundcloud.com/swirlin-ship
    But your ears might suffer: first it's tuned 442 when tuned, second I really was a baaad singer :D )
     
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  15. hcsterg

    hcsterg Friend of Fred

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    In our band, the tuning process is this :
    - the conductor asks the electric piano to play a convenient chord.
    - he tunes by ear all the Woods and Brasses by comparison.
    - he never asks us (guitar and bass) to tune, as we use our headstock tuners.
    - the piano and our tuners are set on 440Hz.
    - so it's 440Hz for all !

    Right ! One time, our bass player Sergio tuned to 442Hz by fancyness :rolleyes:, while we were all 440Hz. It did not lasted one tune before we said to him "Hey Guy, what are doing ? Stop and tune properly ! :eek::D

    A+!
     
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  16. Randy99CL

    Randy99CL Country Gent

    Feb 17, 2020
    Albuquerque
    Congrats Jeffrey, the only poll I've ever seen with only one response! I guess we are all right!
    We're lucky to have all the perfect tuners available today.

    I'm relatively new at this with a lot to learn yet, sorry to expose my ignorance. I've not learned much yet about alternate tunings.
    I've wondered why the A can be adjusted, the new pedal I just ordered goes from 415 to 475. Adapting to someone else who is out-of-tune?

    When I played clarinet in the school band (5th to 10th grades) the instructor listened individually and told us how to adjust the barrel (and so the length) of the horn to get it in tune. Couldn't always get it right though.
    That was about 60 years ago and we had no electronic tuner, just his ear.

    I've got an accurate Korg tuner and got the B and E strings on my 12-string so perfect that I could only hear one tone. I'd read somewhere to tune one of the pair a little off and it worked, now that is the 12 string sound!
     
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  17. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Country Gent

    All on one answer, possibly that only means the question is dumb :D

    About variations in tuning, an interesting read on Wikipedia:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_pitch#History_of_pitch_standards_in_Western_music

    Then your pedal enables to adapt to any situation. Such as playing the Albinoni adagio (same as Robbie Krieger) with a complete baroque orchestra...
     
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  18. Hammerhands

    Hammerhands Country Gent

    Aug 26, 2011
    Winnipeg
    My guitar teacher always tuned to 444.

    I have no idea what I’m tuned to now.
     
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  19. gtttrrr

    gtttrrr Country Gent

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    Dec 7, 2011
    United States
    Watch your language sir, this is a family oriented forum :p:rolleyes::D
     
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  20. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
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    Back then we would use the phones dial tone sometimes to tune . I think it was a perfect " G " note / tone . We'd go from there
     
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