Under rated guitarists

Discussion in 'Gretsch-Talk Music' started by juks, Sep 25, 2021.

  1. Xochi2

    Xochi2 Gretschie

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    Oct 5, 2020
    Wisconsin
    So humbling to hear these wonderful musicians. Never gets boring. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  2. Jimmy Mongo

    Jimmy Mongo Electromatic

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    Dec 24, 2019
    Vermont
    June Millington
     
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  3. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
  4. Gretschtim1

    Gretschtim1 Country Gent

    Dec 4, 2012
    Dundalk, Md
    Justin Hayward of The Moody Blues
     
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  5. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
    We must be brothers...
     
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  6. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
    Grant Green. Glen Campbell.
     
  7. Maj7

    Maj7 Electromatic

    19
    Oct 29, 2009
    Sydney
    Gretsch Forum Special

    1. Cliff Gallup. The one and only.

    2. Paul Burlison/Grady Martin (whoever played at the time… A new guitar playing was invented and changed generations.)

    3. James Burton (I know. Scotty Moore’s place can’t be taken. But listen to James’ “My One Desire” solo with Ricky Nelson – it has immortalised him. Brian Setzer kept it almost in-tact – it was that good.)

    Honorary mention: Darrel Higham; Marco Di Maggio; Paul Pigat. Thanks for keeping the Rockabilly torch burning.


    Jazz

    1. Danny Gatton (Even though he was above any specific genre and stepped out of the boundaries.)

    2. Lenny Breau

    3. Emily Remler

    A very sad list indeed… Each of them could have done more, but they already have left behind masterpieces. Another great one – Freddie Green of the Count Basie Orchestra. Never played a solo. Always played great guitar.


    Rock

    1. Jim Lea. You may not like his hairdo or boots, but not only Slade was one of the most melodic bands, their guitars were so focused, concise and yummy…Nobody’s Fools guitar is a great example. I have never seen a word about him in guitar mags. Not technical enough? Music is about a message.

    2. Mark Farner. Very famous, yet underrated as a guitar player. The thing is that most hard rock bands of that era had a dedicated guitarist and a dedicated singer. Marc was both. Not only he did it well, he sang and played live even better! This is a rare gift.

    3. Clem Clempson. Clem who? Please, listen to his short solo on the Song Of Seven by Jon Andreson. At 5:22, but the way it’s interlaced with the whole song – amazing. It’s all about a message.


    Prog.

    1. Agree with others on Martin Barre.

    2. Trevor Rabin. (I love Steve Howe’s playing dearly. Still can’t understand how Trevor has managed to challenge him with… just one bar phrase! But, he is much more than that.)

    3. Adrian Belew. I repeat myself, when under stress! (Had a quick chat with him once. When I asked him who was easy to deal with – Frank or Robert – he calmly replied: “I played with Robert for longer.”)


    Metal/Shred

    1. Vivian Campbell (Holy Diver sounded like an uncharted territory at the time. A masterpiece.)

    2. Jake E. Lee (Bark at the Moon shines in its own right. His guitarwork will always be judged in comparison with very famous predecessors and successors. No need. Just enjoy the record.)

    3. Tony MacAlpine and Greg Howe. (Both guys are a great example that you can shred like hell, but make tasteful music and retain a modest and open personality. May be that’s why they have been underrated.)


    Acoustic/Classical Guitar

    1. Baden Powell – blistering, yet lyrical. What a beautiful music! It’s not his fault that there were other very talented Brazilian guitarists at that time.

    2. Marcel Dadi - another example, when composition and performance complement each other. If only you could have missed that flight, mon ami…

    3. Anatoliy Olshanskiy – the inventor of the GRAN guitar (It's a 12 string guitar combining nylon and steel strings - a challenge to play.) A composer, an educator and an amazing guitar player. A friend of mine and one of my guitar teachers.

    Also, John Duarte – known as a composer, he was a great guitar player as well.


    Overall

    1. Carlos Santana. Yep. Multiple awards and accolades still don’t justify the greatness and depth of his spiritual message to the world and ability to make guitar… a lead singer in his band. Let alone the fact that Jimi was paid 24 times more at Woodstock than Carlos.

    2. Robert Fripp. He’s got enough credits as a guitarist, for sure. What he does not have credits for is for his input in Modern Classical Music, unlike Zappa. For example, Fripp’s The Devil’s Triangle must be included in all text books on composition as an example of expression of fear in music. And, as lockdown has proven – he’s got a great sense of humour and a harmonious marriage…

    3. Robbie van Leeuwen – probably, when talking about Dutch rock most people would mention Ian Akkerman or George Kooymans. That’s one of the reasons why Robbie should be here, however, not the main one. Robbie wrote one hit after another, practically just playing simple “Dutch Beat” or whatever it should be called. He should have been knighted by the Dutch Queen, if they do this in Holland. I hope, She’s Got It!

    And, to conclude the list - Syd Barrett. Yep, Dave is a much better guitarist and one of my favourites, but I am sure Syd could have become somewhat different and many people here would say… wish he were here….


    Fresh Ideas/New Music

    When we are talking about Underrated guitarists, we often refer to well established and accomplished artists who have been around for a long time, famous for their names to be instantly recognised and who just did not receive enough recognition, compared to their peers. When it comes to relatively young artists, it is harder, as it may be too early to judge. Also, the times they are a-changing and I dare say that it may be unlikely that guitarists starting today may ever receive the fame and fortune of the mavericks of the 70s and 80s. A Guitar-hero business model may well be a thing of the past. That’s on top of the pandemic disaster, which has literally killed guitarist (RIP Bucky Pizzarelli), but probably has put some other talented players out of business for good. Yet, there is a strong chance of the music resurgence. So, hats-off to those who are playing; composing; inventing and pushing the boundaries. As it happens with music, when one sees stagnation, the new ideas are just around the corner. It’s always good to discover new styles and approaches. So, underrated or not, I’d like to thank here: Tosin Abasi; Javier Reyes; Misha Mansoor; Mark Holcomb; Jake Bowen; Mario Camarena; Erick Hansel; Sarah Longfield; Yvette Young; Plini; Chimp Spanner; Dmitry Demyanenko; Ichika Nito; Aaron Marshal and countless others for keeping on strumming. Even though at times their choice of time signatures, chord progressions, on top of their technical abilities, often makes me feel like... a diminished chord... :>)
     
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  8. Lucky Jim

    Lucky Jim Electromatic

    77
    Oct 16, 2020
    Kent, England
    Loved The Feelgoods. Mick Green was a huge influence on Wilco Johnson but is barely known outside of the UK. Here he is in action with The Pirates



    Yes, an excellent guitarist but Brinsley is equally well known in the UK as an exceptionally good guitar tech as a result of his long period in the workshop of Chandler Guitars in Kew.
     
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  9. juks

    juks Country Gent

    Nov 26, 2020
    Fremont, California
    Yes! Mick Green is a good one. Saw them live one with Mick and the original drummer. But different bass/singer.

    Mick's guitar work is excellent!
     
  10. captainmur

    captainmur Electromatic

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    72
    Sep 7, 2017
    Germany
    He wasn't a guitarist, he was a bassist, but he was amazing. Gary Thain from Uriah Heep. Sadly, he died at the age of 27...



     
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  11. Freshy

    Freshy Synchromatic

    Age:
    69
    954
    Sep 30, 2017
    Homosassa FLA

    I think Tuck will always be classified as Jazz. He hammers his notes and chords so much he puts funk in all his music. He takes an older Wes blues tune (Up and at It) but before too long it turns to jazz. "Reckless Precision" is his solo album. Most of his recorded work is with the duo Tuck and Patti. He also has a Master Class series on Youtube
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tuck+andress+masterclass+

    Tuck breaks down his style


    I Wish


    Up and at It


    Castles Made Of Sand/Little Wing
     
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  12. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    . . . And I just read that Tuck and Patti's former roadie and tour manager was his niece, a young Annie Clark, aka St. Vincent!
     
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  13. Xochi2

    Xochi2 Gretschie

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    Oct 5, 2020
    Wisconsin
    When I think of Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, I immediately recall the backstory of Elliot Randall being invited and playing the lead to "Reelin' In The Years."
     
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  14. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    Ian Moss - Cold Chisel

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  15. montereyjack66

    montereyjack66 Country Gent

    Feb 29, 2012
    LA-ish
    Eddie Munoz from the Plimsouls. Not Mr Technical, but tasty as all get out and no pointless licks .
     
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  16. jfassett

    jfassett Synchromatic

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    Dec 9, 2017
    Tucson
    Ronnie Earl
     
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  17. montereyjack66

    montereyjack66 Country Gent

    Feb 29, 2012
    LA-ish
    Any respect for Davey Johnstone?
     
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  18. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    62
    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
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    Absolutely , and he's still rockin'
     
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  19. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
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  20. Gretschtim1

    Gretschtim1 Country Gent

    Dec 4, 2012
    Dundalk, Md
    Yep - really creative player.
     
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