Ughhh...Is a Bigsby B7 a dealbreaker for anybody else?

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  1. Highroller

    Highroller Country Gent

    Jun 11, 2015
    Portland, OR
    Yeah, you lose the floating bridge on those PE models too. That's just wrong! LoL!

    Not surprised you're happier with the Vintage Select - Congrats!
     
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  2. TV the Wired Turtle

    TV the Wired Turtle Gretschified

    Jul 25, 2009
    Sandy Eggo



    this is beautiful and I dont like les pauls :) :) but I love Social distortion
     
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  3. Bertotti

    Bertotti Friend of Fred

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    In my mind any tension bar Bigsby is a travesty. I will not buy a Gretsch with one. Sad really as so many newer models have a tension bar even proline! I should thank Gretsch for eliminating them from my gas line up.
     
  4. stiv

    stiv Country Gent

    Sep 12, 2014
    Firenze, Italy
    Every time I saw this guitar I drool. That’s the perfect Jet to me (Bigsby bridge included).
     
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  5. hcsterg

    hcsterg Friend of Fred

    Feb 13, 2012
    France
    Ughhh...Is a Bigsby B7 a dealbreaker for anybody else?

    Well, not for me... Nor the B5 too. But yes, B7 and B5 are more demanding in their installation and set-up than the B3 or B6.

    There is a great number of guitars that have a B5 or B7 which are incorrectly factory set : position, shape of the top, break angle, etc... The G5435T is one of the examples - among many others no matter the brand - which comes to my mind.

    On my G6522TLH, the Bigsby B7LH now operates flawlessly (lower pic) - and it was not at all the case when the guitar was factory stock (upper pic)...

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    A roller bridge helps - here is the fine Göldo HW-35C (40 euros here in EU, thomann.de) :

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    And also a well carved anti-friction nut :

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    But yes : the B5 and B7 must be first installed / modded / set-up'ed before.

    A+!
     
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  6. CicadaNation

    CicadaNation Electromatic

    18
    Apr 25, 2021
    Northern Virginia
  7. mrfixitmi

    mrfixitmi Country Gent

    Mar 20, 2010
    Michigan
    Not a deal breaker for me. If the angle is too steep, I will either add shims or go with a Bricks BiggsFix. For me, the aesthetics of the guitar is less important than the way it plays. If I can't modify a guitar to work, then I sell it, give it away, and chalk it up as a lesson learned.

    That said, I do agree that a correct set up and design should come from the factory, but being a picky engineer, I know that reality that this is not always possible. Would I prefer a B3, or a B6, yes, but our choices have become diminished.
     
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  8. Marv666

    Marv666 Gretschie

    380
    Jul 26, 2020
    Germany
    on an electromatic jet ok .... i kinda think of it as a better les paul with Gretsch character.
    But i´d never buy a proline with a tension bar bigsby!

    I thought about replacing the b5 on my electro jet with a b7 cause the b5 is the least gretschy looking,
    but i accept the tension roller as it wouldn´t work with a b3 unfortunately.

    So on the electro jet ok, but i couldn´t deal with it on a proline .... that´s b3 and b6 territory IMO :)
     
  9. CicadaNation

    CicadaNation Electromatic

    18
    Apr 25, 2021
    Northern Virginia
    The proline choices are limited if you want a filtertron jet. You’ve got the PE, the 59VS, and the 89VS. I’d rather put a Biggsfix on a PE than deal with the mud switch and V neck of the 59 (and have to replace the space control) or the period chambering and aesthetic oddities of the 89. I also put schaller style strap locks and locking tuners on all my electrics anyway.
     
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  10. juks

    juks Country Gent

    Nov 26, 2020
    Fremont, California
    I had the 'luck' of getting divorced in CA. Must be the worst place on earth for that. Took only 8 years...

    At year 2 my boss got divorced in TX. Took two weeks. And when the child and spousal support is calculated from gross income, I had less than my rent payment left from my after tax pay check. No buying guitars back then.

    But that all is behind now since a while. Just do not get married in CA. :)
     
  11. TV the Wired Turtle

    TV the Wired Turtle Gretschified

    Jul 25, 2009
    Sandy Eggo
    I got married in California in 88' :)
     
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  12. juks

    juks Country Gent

    Nov 26, 2020
    Fremont, California
    Congrats for it being a lasting marriage. :)
     
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  13. rcboals

    rcboals Country Gent

    Nov 21, 2008
    Springfield Oregon
    Get one you will not be sorry. I have had several jets this one is the keeper.
     

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  14. speedicut

    speedicut Friend of Fred

    Jun 5, 2012
    Alabama
    Yep
    There are many Duo Jets I love (including the '53 VS) and none of them have tension bars on the Bigsbys...
     
  15. Craig Encinitas

    Craig Encinitas Gretschie

    121
    May 3, 2021
    Encinitas, Ca
    I love-hate-love, but mostly dislike the one on my G6659.
    Like most situations, I've learned to deal with it.
    If you enjoy sustain, and prefer strumming two chords, 30 seconds apart...then this Bigsby is for you! :p

    #Ambience
    #PraiseAndWorship
     
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  16. GlenP

    GlenP Country Gent

    Jul 23, 2019
    WA
    7D9F4511-3A30-46D3-B59D-4DB30DF954F3.jpeg I really did not have any complaints on my G5655, but was replacing the bridge with a piezo at the time and decided to install the super squishy spring and bricksbiggsfix at the same time.

    Here is a picture of the string break at the bridge with the new elevated tension roller bar installed.
     
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  17. DennisC

    DennisC Country Gent

    Age:
    39
    May 11, 2017
    Germany
    Tension bars are not for me . Bought one with one ... won't again. End of.

    It isn't that it works wrong or so, but it feels wrong to me ... the B60 on the 5420 feels natural, the 70 on the 2622 feels ... uh. No matter what, the tension bar is a deal breaker to me.
     
  18. Dana Rudd

    Dana Rudd Country Gent

    Age:
    72
    Nov 26, 2019
    Greybull, WY
    Only have one B70 on my G2627T, quickly installed a BiggsFix on it. Functions fine just ugly. Installed the BiggsFix on my B50 equipped G5230T also.
    My ProLines all have B6's on them.
     
  19. Drock2k1

    Drock2k1 Synchromatic

    634
    Feb 26, 2013
    Indiana
    Well, as much as I don’t like them, I have a Center Block Falcon on the way that has one. I would certainly prefer a different Bigsby but I don’t use it that much so…we will see if it ends up being a deal breaker for me :)
     
  20. twangmanster

    twangmanster Electromatic

    37
    Dec 29, 2021
    Long Island
    Its no easy day changing strings on them, I'll say that. But I do have one on one of my Gretsches and its really not so bad. Stays in tune, love the geet!
     
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