TV Jones PowerTron or Classic?

Discussion in 'Technical Side of Things' started by AudioDemon, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. AudioDemon

    AudioDemon Electromatic

    Jan 28, 2013
    Seattle, USA
    Hello everyone. After hours of research I am convinced that buying TV Jones are the best route to go even though they are pretty expensive.

    Here is the deal..

    I play Alternative Rock, and most Modern Worship music i.e. JesusCulture or Hillsong United.

    I am stuck between the TVJ PowerTrons or the TVJClassics

    I want the classic Gretsch sound, but I would like to be able to do high gain riffs or solos like a humbucker would produce. Most examples are done in a clean tone which doesn't give me much of an idea how they sound distorted or boosted.

    I am leaning towards the PowerTrons but I want to be sure that they still can retain the classic gretsch sound. Any ideas or opinions?

  2. dazzajl

    dazzajl Country Gent

    Apr 18, 2010
    powertrons are gretschy but probably the least gretschy filter option. they have a very pronounced mid range compared to all the rest. the classics will still give you a great gritty sound and be more in keeping with the gretsch realm.
  3. cowmoo

    cowmoo Country Gent

    Aug 19, 2011
    North Wales
    I have powertrons in my Spectra Sonic, and they growl and grind like a nasty HB but still sound distinctively gretsch.
    My Anni has classics and can do the same.
    The powers give more mid as far as I can tell.
    I don't use much overdrive but they'll both sound different to your average paf hb.
  4. AudioDemon

    AudioDemon Electromatic

    Jan 28, 2013
    Seattle, USA
    So even TVJ Classics can produce a high gain rock tone with their low output? If so, should I get a TVJ classic in the neck and a classic plus in the bridge?
  5. cowmoo

    cowmoo Country Gent

    Aug 19, 2011
    North Wales
    I've messed around with winding up the drive on pedals and they've done just fine, not as dark as Gibbo HB's, and more edgey not as smooth, but as the classics are in a hollowbody, it gets way too unwieldy at volume!
    Like I said, I mainly play with mild overdrive from the amp with some boost so maybe someone else who uses higher gain settings at gigging volume will be able to help.
  6. AudioDemon

    AudioDemon Electromatic

    Jan 28, 2013
    Seattle, USA
    Bump: Does anyone play with TVJ Classics at gigging volume and use high distortion and gain?
  7. Dirtymug666

    Dirtymug666 Synchromatic

    Mar 10, 2011
    Muskogee, Oklahoma
    I have classics in my 5120 and I've played with a Billy brain into a CRANKED jca20h->212 cab. The bridge pup rock and rolls like no other. It does high gain very well for me. Although it does not sound like any other humbucker. It's a very unique high gain sound. I think you'll love it. But if you are really wanting a clean filter sound and a high gain PAF sound, it doesn't really work that way. More like a clean filter sound and a monstrous angry Gretsch sound when you drive the hell out of it
    MKunie likes this.
  8. Raconteur

    Raconteur Gretschie

    Nov 12, 2010
    Utah, USA
    Classics. Best all around pickup I've ever heard or used.
  9. fender62custom

    fender62custom Gretschified

    Mar 3, 2012
    Helidon, Australia
    A Classic in the neck & a Classic Plus in the bridge will work nicely for what your after!!!! ...l personally would go with a Supertron in the neck [worship] & a Classic Plus in the Bridge [Alternate Rock] ... you'll get a very usable middle position too!! ..i'd email Tom & let him know what your after so he can make as balanced a set as possible.
  10. BarryMClark

    BarryMClark Country Gent

    Apr 4, 2011
    In a nutshell, the Classics are the most Filtertron-y. Powertrons have that Filtertron jangle but have a Gibson PAF lean.

    Getting a more modern gainy growl out of an amp is a balance between the amp and guitar. You won't need as high a gain amp if you are bombarding its input with high output pickups. If you have a high gain amp like Soldano or something, then you won't necessarily need high output pickups.

    Case in point, I had one of the Jet City amps. Killer amps for gain. I played my Gretsch through it. MEAN sounding. :) ...and my Gretsch has Powertrons.
  11. lukez8513

    lukez8513 Gretschie

    Dec 27, 2011
    If you looking for versatility- classics. I have both and love them each for different reasons. But classics do well for everything you're looking for
  12. papalobo

    papalobo Gretschie

    Oct 29, 2012
    Classic /Classic plus has al the sparlkle , yet handles overdrive wonderfully
  13. mrstrum

    mrstrum Electromatic

    Oct 7, 2012
    I took Powertrons out of mine and put in a Classic & a Classic plus and have been very happy with them. I too play in Worship Bands and the Powertrons were just too dark for me
  14. HypotenusLuvTriangle

    HypotenusLuvTriangle Country Gent

    Oct 27, 2010
    Whittier, Ca
    I have Classics / Plus in my G5120 and they sound amazing. Really good. The leads are super hot and awesome.

    I got a Powertron plus for my Penguin's bridge. I will be installing that soon. Along iwth a Magnatron for the neck. I'm excited to hear it.

    In the future, if I can justify it, I may replace the HSFTs in my Falcon with TVJclassics or powertrons depending on how I like them.
  15. AudioDemon

    AudioDemon Electromatic

    Jan 28, 2013
    Seattle, USA
    Wow this was great feedback! Looks like I will be going for a Classic in the Neck and a Classic Plus in the Bridge! Thank-you all for contributing to my final decision!
  16. Kmonz90

    Kmonz90 Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2013
    Yes and thats my suggestion
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  17. Dirtymug666

    Dirtymug666 Synchromatic

    Mar 10, 2011
    Muskogee, Oklahoma
    You will not be disappointed
  18. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    On what guitar? That seems like a somewhat important question to ask. I mean, there are a lot of folks here who don't feel it's necessary to go TVJ in every situation where a Gretsch Filter will work.
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  19. 95strat

    95strat Electromatic

    Aug 25, 2009
    I have a Power Jet and play mostly worship stuff like you. I love the Powertron in the bridge postion. Man, it gets a really nice chimey drive with drive pedals.

    I've never used Classics so I can't compare. I like a lot of mids and chime and the Powertron's seem to deliver.
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  20. Class A Man

    Class A Man Gretschie

    Jan 1, 2016
    Louisville Kentucky
    I'm a newbie to the world of filtertrons and Gretsch, but fwiw..

    Going by the general consensus on gear forums and per TV Jones Powertron description on their website, I think a Powertron in the bridge spot would meet your description of what you want. And enhanced mids will get you through the mix.

    As Stevo asked, what guitar ?

    Do you use a clean boost ?
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2016
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