This has probably been discussed more then once. But I couldn't directly find an answer that worked for me, so here goes. I'm having the issue that the recommended pup height is hard to get for some reason on my 5420, seems like the spring doesn't allow for it or something and the pups seems to tilt forward when I try to raise them that high. they also overtone a lot and can't get a clean sound out of them. I lowered them to the recommendation of someone on the forum: Neck at 6mm and Bridge at 5mm. Which still didn't feel or sound stable. So I got them at Neck 7 mm and bridge 6.4mm. Now the pups feel stable in their mount and I get the sound that I like. Is this a personal thing or am I way off?
Tv Jones has recommended height in his website. I find with with 5420 cutting the mount springs shorter help a bit but can also put foam / small piece of sponge under pickup and mount bracket the use the two screws on ends of the pickups for a bit more tweeting the mounting bracket screws can only go so high. That being said if you’re getting the sound you need then keep them as they are. Ps. The foam under pickup may help with any tilt
I use setzer pick ups in all my filter guitars. I start with them at the regular pick up height that TV Jones recommends on their site and give subtle adjustments from there. Sometimes putting a new piece of foam helps. Instead of the ones in there now that have been compressed. Also make sure that none of the wiring is getting in the way. But I agree if you are getting the sound you want now and you feel the pick ups are stable in the guitar then you got it.
Aight thx for the input and the tips on tilt, never read anything about that issue, thought it was just me.
Thanks, but that's the schematic with the heights that made it muddy to my ear. My guitar tech also said it was too much when testing and lowered them. He lowered them more then I did, but yeah...
Sounds like the magnetic pull overtones that you're hearing, and they do suck! More often than not pickups sound much better further away than closer! Howard
It should perhaps be emphasized that any measurement of "pickup height", i.e. the disance between the bottom of the string and the top of the pole piece is measured with STRINGS DEPRESSED AT THE LAST FRET, otherwise pickups are too close and the subsequent magnetic pull alters tone and intonation.
Tv’s spec is a starting point.... but wow I dot mine dead spec n I don’t get a magnetic pull that hi jacks tone... huh...
I do think it's subjective and getting the pickups as close as possible isn't always what I like. Yes, the tone is fatter and more 'in your face' but it lacks a little air, headroom and twang. You get more twonk than twang!
If you’re going with mm’s you’ll want to try setting the bridge pickup 4mm from E strings and the neck pickup 5.5mm’s. Basically the same height the stock pickups were in the 5420.
Some context: I'm a slap bass player. So when I play guitar, it's mostly me on my own or jamming with a few ppl . It started out as a way to get more into the music theory of rockabilly and is ending up with me geeking out on Gretsch, amps, effects and getting a full rig together So I wouldn't say I play at bedroom volume, cause I love the sound of loud guitars and the feel of air moving from the amp. But I don't have to compete with other artists when I play.
Regarding to Filtetron, we cannot talk about magnetic pull. Those are just screws, no magnets... If we talk Dynasonics it is completely different. Those are real magnets
Maybe the SS are a little mid hot for your ears...possibly the Classics or Butts would be worth checking out... member here says two neck position Classics are the ticket. Amp settings are huge in effect but I’m sure your noodling... my SS are going through a pretty clean/mid hump 6g6b circuit and V30’s. Raising my filters created welcomed growl and sensitivity. Not Sure but I believe TV has a return policy for disappointed customers..