Tuner color suggestion

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by rschultz, Sep 24, 2021.

  1. rschultz

    rschultz Electromatic

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    May 11, 2015
    Knoxville, TN
    Hi,

    I have a 5622 center block. The pickup rings and pick guard is gold, but the rest of the hardware is nickel. I want to upgrade the tuners... I hate the tiny knobs. They are 16:1, so they seem good in that regard. But while I'm at it I was wondering about 18:1 and/or gold. Probably go the Gotoh route. I like Schaller style knobs the best, although the Gotoh 510 midsized ones look nice too. Just not sure if gold would look right or if I should stick with Nickel/chrome.

    Thoughts? Suggestions?

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  2. ampe

    ampe Country Gent

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    I would keep it consistent with the rest of the hardware, so either nickel or change at least the end piece to gold as well.
     
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  3. section2

    section2 Country Gent

    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
    If you're otherwise happy with the tuners, you could just replace the buttons. Does your 5622 have Grovers? If so, Hipshot buttons will fit. They have a huge selection in different styles. I'm a big fan of the Imperial buttons. (Hipshot calls them "Deco.")

    https://hipshotproducts.com/products/guitar-tuner-buttons

    If it were me, I'd stay with nickel tuners to match the rest of the hardware, but you should go with whatever look you like the most.
     
  4. rschultz

    rschultz Electromatic

    71
    May 11, 2015
    Knoxville, TN
    Yeah I also wonder if I got the gold if it would clash with the darker antique type gold of the pick guard and cover plates. Probably best to stay with nickel.

    Any thoughts on 16:1 vs 18:1? Both my acoustics are 18:1, but both my electrics are 16:1. Not sure how important that is.
     
  5. section2

    section2 Country Gent

    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
    The higher gear ratio makes tuning a bit less of a chore, but it's a nice-to-have, not a need-to-have. All of my guitars have 18:1 tuners, so I can't offer a comparison to the 16:1s, except to say that an 18:1 tuner will take an extra 1/8 of a turn to achieve the same change in pitch that a 16:1 would achieve in a full rotation. I'd guess that the difference would be subtle.
     
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  6. G5422T

    G5422T Country Gent

    May 24, 2012
    usa
    Nickel.

    As far as tuners ratios, not as important as the quality of the tuner IMO.

    Then the most important thing is proper stringing.
     
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  7. rschultz

    rschultz Electromatic

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    May 11, 2015
    Knoxville, TN
    There are some Gotoh 21:1 in antique gold on reverb for $110… that’s like 1/2 price.
     
  8. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    Feb 10, 2010
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    It'd be easier, and cheaper, to redo the pickguard and pickup surrounds.
    Never liked mixing silver and gold hardware myself. Gold wears away too fast.
     
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  9. Archtops

    Archtops Country Gent

    Mar 4, 2021
    SoCal
    Stay with the nickel. I think it will look better than mixing the hardware. IMHO
     
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  10. new6659

    new6659 Country Gent

    I would also stay with nickel and don't think the tuning ratio really matters.
     
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  11. Mark W

    Mark W Country Gent

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    Jun 6, 2008
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    Another vote for staying nickel.
     
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  12. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    nickel
     
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  13. Shock

    Shock Gretschie

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    Sep 7, 2020
    Minnesota
    Unless it is a Setzer. The exception that proves the rule. Even on the Setzer it looks off, but that is the idea. It makes it look like a 65 Chevy on a 55 frame.
     
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  14. coolrene

    coolrene Electromatic

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    Apr 17, 2021
    France
    [​IMG] My suggestion is Hipshot open tuners with large chrome buttons (they offer a wide choice of size & colors) very precise, smooth and looking great !
     
  15. rschultz

    rschultz Electromatic

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    May 11, 2015
    Knoxville, TN
    yeah those look cool, but the screw is in the center. I need it offset like the Gotoh Z models.
     
  16. Jeff67

    Jeff67 Country Gent

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    Nov 3, 2019
    Crockett, Texas
    Nickel. I don't usually like mixing gold and chrome/ nickel, but they got the balance right, at least to my eyes. Gold tuners would throw the balance off.
     
  17. section2

    section2 Country Gent

    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
    Hipshots come with universal mounting plates that allow you to mount them without screws, so you don't need to worry about lining up the mounting holes.

    I have Hipshots on three of my guitars, and they're fantastic. Here's a pic of my 5620 with the Hipshot plates. There are two plates under each set of three tuners. You can see a bit of overlap where the plates meet, but it doesn't bother me—nobody looks at the back of the headstock anyway.

    20210929_094920.jpg
     
  18. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    Atlanta
    The pickup surrounds seem off - I guess their matching the pick guard. But to answer the question, nickel.
     
  19. swivel

    swivel Country Gent

    May 13, 2018
    PNW
    I put inexpensive Gotoh's (~$39) on a Tele type to replace the stock tuners. I don't like these tuners at all. They seem very cheap and inconsistent tuner to tuner. I bought them because they fit the screw pattern that existed. The original Chinese tuners the guitar had were just as good.
    Just throwing that out for you to consider.
     
  20. HypotenusLuvTriangle

    HypotenusLuvTriangle Country Gent

    Oct 27, 2010
    Whittier, Ca

    I second Hipshot. Fantastic stuff.
     
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