ToneWoodAmp anyone tried one?

Setzerhotrod

Country Gent
Oct 26, 2011
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Anchorage Alaska
A couple of years ago I put together a vibration speaker with bluetooth that strapped (I wish I had thought of the magnet) on the back of my acoustic. I used it to play backing tracks through the sound hole to play along with. I thought I had come up with something cool and even visited the patent lawyer. He did some research and thought it would fly. I decided not to go forward due to the quick change in technology. I imagine I would have been blown out of the water by this. I suppose you could plug your iphone into this and do the same thing as well as what its supposed to do.
Oh, and by the way, the guy in the demo was one of the 4 guys in this season's international guitar night, though the tour is probably cancelled now :(
 

wildeman

I Bleed Orange
May 10, 2015
16,048
norcal
Did you get it yet? I think it may be designed for piezo's but i ain't got one so I'm using it with one of my DeArmonds (all i use). Here's mine on my '68 Yamaha FG 230. 20200322_172151.jpg 20200322_172211.jpg
It works pretty good with the Mag pickup on a plywood guitar, i can only imagine it on a solid wood guitar with a piezo.
 

Bertotti

Friend of Fred
Jul 20, 2017
9,106
South Dakota
Did you get it yet? I think it may be designed for piezo's but i ain't got one so I'm using it with one of my DeArmonds (all i use). Here's mine on my '68 Yamaha FG 230. View attachment 134082 View attachment 134083
It works pretty good with the Mag pickup on a plywood guitar, i can only imagine it on a solid wood guitar with a piezo.
No not yet it is in Sioux Falls fedex but not set to arrive until Tuesday!

I hope they are early but doubt it. It arrived but no one is around in Sunday’s as far as I know to sort it to the truck for my route. I certainly hope I’m wrong but way to many times I have seen it arrive there only to sit for up to three days.
 
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Bertotti

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Jul 20, 2017
9,106
South Dakota
No such luck in it is still sitting at FedEx and I can’t just pick it up. So I googled a bit to see how it would play with the pure western mini, apparently they are so hot without a preamp that you need to decrease the incoming gain and tweak the notch filter. I didn’t not get any extra x things to mount in my other acoustics but if it works out well it will go into the Rancher Penguin as well provided I don’t decide to sell it. I still tend to grab my Little Martin instead so the Penguin doesn’t get much love.
 

wildeman

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May 10, 2015
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I got confused when they said i had to put the strip of metal into my guitar for the magnet to work. It seems cool if you are solo around the house, but you would need to mike it in front of a larger audience, and in that case, you then have access to those sounds.
It has a line out too, i haven't tried it though.
 

Bertotti

Friend of Fred
Jul 20, 2017
9,106
South Dakota
Got it and installed it. I have to work out the notch filter better . I did get rid of the feedback but have an annoying tone happening kind of like the strings resonating behind a Bigsby. I rushed it because but I had to try it. I do like it I just need a bit more tweaking. Tomorrow I switch to electric for some tweaking!
 
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Bertotti

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Jul 20, 2017
9,106
South Dakota
Thoughts so far. I like it but it will take some time to learn to tweak well. It has an auto wah and some kind of dirt or drive and I care for neither. The delay isn’t to my liking but I haven’t played with settings yet so that may change. Reverbs trem and Leslie are nice and I must need to do an update because I thought they added chorus and dumped that of dirt whatever option. With individual drive volume and other setting and some master settings I have a fair amount of experimenting to do but the more I play the more I like it. Final judgment is still out. But I am fairly certain I will keep it. Wether I will recommend it as strongly as my Nocturne pedals remains to be seen as I learn how to beat tweak it.
 

Bertotti

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Jul 20, 2017
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South Dakota
Ok last set of notes. I wound up tuning the master gain down to 15. Some individual gains down volumes depth rates give plenty of tweakablility. I am going to keep it O enjoy it but I sure don’t consider it a game changer at least not on the Martin 000-18 GE ‘37 burst. It was such an incredible sounding instrument it is hard to improve on it. The effects are fun and I do prefer to have some slight reverb Leslie or trem currently as opposed to not having it. That alone makes it a keeper. I will buy a couple more braces and try it on my other two acoustics. Well one at least. I do like the Penguin Rancher but it gets little play time so I might love it on. That is an entirely different topic though.
 

wildeman

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May 10, 2015
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Cool man, they do require some tweaking but when you get it just right its great. Im playing mine now on the hall setting, chorus would be nice, i have no use for the dirt setting either. The auto wa is kinda fun for some Dead like things.
 

Flouswa

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Jun 7, 2018
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Western Pennsylvania
Ok last set of notes. I wound up tuning the master gain down to 15. Some individual gains down volumes depth rates give plenty of tweakablility. I am going to keep it O enjoy it but I sure don’t consider it a game changer at least not on the Martin 000-18 GE ‘37 burst. It was such an incredible sounding instrument it is hard to improve on it. The effects are fun and I do prefer to have some slight reverb Leslie or trem currently as opposed to not having it. That alone makes it a keeper. I will buy a couple more braces and try it on my other two acoustics. Well one at least. I do like the Penguin Rancher but it gets little play time so I might love it on. That is an entirely different topic though.
Interesting, anxious to see how this progresses. I'm a big fan of Mike Dawes and I've been very curious about these myself.
 

Bertotti

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Jul 20, 2017
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KEENS!!! I just bought a pair of their sneakers, they are awesome, I'm sold.

They should hire me as a spokesperson I am on my 12 or 13 pair. I drive a lot and walk a lot on concrete in shops so I go through work boots quickly. I could get a few more years out of them with new insoles but my knees and back like a new pair every couple of years and the company allows me 140$ for safety boots each year if needed.
Interesting, anxious to see how this progresses. I'm a big fan of Mike Dawes and I've been very curious about these myself.

I was trying to keep the incoming gain as high as possible and it turns out that it is counterproductive. I have it at 15 now but I am going to experiment with lower levels and see how it works out. I am told by them that 15 was the high side of what they could make work on their guitars using the K&K pure mini pups. Going lower allows for more adjustability with the volume and gain controls within each effect itself. I also don't notice it as much over top the instrument as people do out front so it seems. So I might try making some adjustments with a mic running to one of my K10s. With the K&K going direct to the K10 I have to be quite ways back because of feedback those pups are very sensitive. I am not sure what will happen with the feed going from the unit or a mic to the K10. I even wonder how it would sound running both. I do lie it but I am not blown away like the guys in the video I posted and I think a lot of that has to do with room acoustics and setup.
 

Bertotti

Friend of Fred
Jul 20, 2017
9,106
South Dakota
KEENS!!! I just bought a pair of their sneakers, they are awesome, I'm sold.
Master gain down to 5 and it improved even more. I can hear it clearer above than I was. I wouldn’t expect miracles but it is a fun device to have. I don’t regret the purchase. I will be buying an xbrace to install it into the Rancher Penguin and at some point a pup and brace to put it in the little Martin.
 

Bertotti

Friend of Fred
Jul 20, 2017
9,106
South Dakota
OK, Seven months in and a bit of an update. I haven't had a lot of playtime this year. Odd really considering being locked down a few months but work was just as hectic and I have never really stopped traveling, apparently, I am essential. Anywho, what little time I have had has been on mandolin and My Martin with the TWA in it. I still love it but after listening to clips and the actuality of the tone at home I was a little disappointed. Oh, it is quite amazing but online it sounds so much more present. Well, that was all operator error and listening position. I play unplugged no mic just sitting at home in front of the guitar it is more apparent unplugged, at least to me. I can hear it when I play but it isn't in your face miraculous like I thought the clips sounded. Then one day I realized these are all recorded of the room the guitar was in, mic'd, so I mic up and there it is. Through a little PA wow! If anyone is on the fence I say go for it but I needed to put a bit of time into tweaking things the way I wanted them and tweaking a bit more when I mic'd up. I am a bit picky even though I play for crap.

In one youtube vid, a guy says, once you play it you never want to play without it. Yea there is some truth to that. My Martin is very satisfying with or without it but with it, there is some serious toneage happening. I do not know if toneage, spoken as tone age but rednecked together is a word but it should be.
 

Henry

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Apr 9, 2014
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Petaluma
Until my younger kid turned 5 basically all my pants developed huge holes at the knees from constantly kneeling on the carpet to okay with them.

Thanks for the review. Our band lately plays acoustic outside, unamplified except for the electric bass, recording with a stereo field recorder. This would be a fun thing to add.
 

Henry

I Bleed Orange
Apr 9, 2014
18,509
Petaluma
OK, Seven months in and a bit of an update. I haven't had a lot of playtime this year. Odd really considering being locked down a few months but work was just as hectic and I have never really stopped traveling, apparently, I am essential. Anywho, what little time I have had has been on mandolin and My Martin with the TWA in it. I still love it but after listening to clips and the actuality of the tone at home I was a little disappointed. Oh, it is quite amazing but online it sounds so much more present. Well, that was all operator error and listening position. I play unplugged no mic just sitting at home in front of the guitar it is more apparent unplugged, at least to me. I can hear it when I play but it isn't in your face miraculous like I thought the clips sounded. Then one day I realized these are all recorded of the room the guitar was in, mic'd, so I mic up and there it is. Through a little PA wow! If anyone is on the fence I say go for it but I needed to put a bit of time into tweaking things the way I wanted them and tweaking a bit more when I mic'd up. I am a bit picky even though I play for crap.

In one youtube vid, a guy says, once you play it you never want to play without it. Yea there is some truth to that. My Martin is very satisfying with or without it but with it, there is some serious toneage happening. I do not know if toneage, spoken as tone age but rednecked together is a word but it should be.
Do you feel that this device would mark a guitar? Glue from the sticker or applying and removing the device on the back repeatedly? kinda worried about marring my guitar.
 

Bertotti

Friend of Fred
Jul 20, 2017
9,106
South Dakota
Do you feel that this device would mark a guitar? Glue from the sticker or applying and removing the device on the back repeatedly? kinda worried about marring my guitar.
It doesn't seem to cause any issue. But I sure wouldn't just leave it on all the time. I use it peel it off and put it back on when I am ready to play again. The grip is very strong between it and the x brace inside. I am particularly careful taking it off and putting it on but I am more worried about taking it off because it does hold well.
 

Bertotti

Friend of Fred
Jul 20, 2017
9,106
South Dakota
Did you get it yet? I think it may be designed for piezo's but i ain't got one so I'm using it with one of my DeArmonds (all i use). Here's mine on my '68 Yamaha FG 230. View attachment 134082 View attachment 134083
It works pretty good with the Mag pickup on a plywood guitar, i can only imagine it on a solid wood guitar with a piezo.
Have you found that it sounds even better mixed? So far that is my experience. Probably has a lot to do with my hearing.
 

wildeman

I Bleed Orange
May 10, 2015
16,048
norcal
Have you found that it sounds even better mixed? So far that is my experience. Probably has a lot to do with my hearing.
I haven't tried it, i only use it through the guitar so far. I may have plugged it into a guitar amp for a minute but i can't remember
 


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