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So with the Broadkasters....will Panthers.....

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by TSims1, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. TSims1

    TSims1 Friend of Fred

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta
    So just to clarify.......nobody here has actually tried a Broadkaster?
     
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  2. englishman

    englishman Friend of Fred

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    Apr 5, 2014
    Detroit
    Well, they are made in the USA. AlNiCo 5 in the neck pickup and AlNiCo 2 at the bridge.
    Supposed to be hotter but not muddy at all.

    I have to admit, except for the tension bar Bigsby, the thin body, less angled neck, locking tuners, treble bleed, no load tone pot all appeal to me.
     
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  3. TSims1

    TSims1 Friend of Fred

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta

    Not a fan of the tension bar. Also don't like treble bleeds. Less angled neck doesn't matter to me. No load tone pot is cool.
     
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  5. Aymara

    Aymara Country Gent

    Jul 6, 2013
    Germany
    What's that?
     
  6. englishman

    englishman Friend of Fred

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    There's a 'detent' at the end of the tone pot rotation that takes it out of the circuit altogether.
     
  7. englishman

    englishman Friend of Fred

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    This is the only real sound sample I can find. Not a whole lot of use.

     
  8. Gretsch6120

    Gretsch6120 Gretschie

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    To each his own
     
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  9. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    No I never said anyone here did say Broadkaster is superior and otherwise we appear to be in total agreement :)
     
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  10. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    Well we can only hope that Gretsch retains the Panther.
    I'm personally a lot more likely to buy one than a Broadkaster.
    I like the Panther pick guard too :)
     
  11. nickurso

    nickurso Friend of Fred

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    Dec 24, 2012
    New Orleans la.
    They sound pretty good, of course Greg makes any guitar sound great. I love the red flame maple one he's playing that looks like it comes without a pick guard, I always take them off anyway. Still the only negative I see is that damn tension roller bigsby. I wonder why that's the one they use? After seeing this video I'd like to really try out/own one. I'd definitely have to do something about the bigsby probably get a bigsby fix for it.
     
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  12. nickurso

    nickurso Friend of Fred

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    This video shows a broadkaster jr model that I kind of like

     
  13. audept

    audept I Bleed Orange

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    Dec 1, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    The use of tension bar Bigsbys on the Broadkasters is a deal-breaker for me. I just can't stand them.
     
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  14. nickurso

    nickurso Friend of Fred

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    Broadkaster Jr
     
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  15. nickurso

    nickurso Friend of Fred

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    I agree they make the bigsby useless
     
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  16. Aymara

    Aymara Country Gent

    Jul 6, 2013
    Germany
    And that's the reason, why these models will be a flop ... most experienced Gretsch players don't like this Bigsby. And the models without Bigsby ... this tailpiece is plain ugly, sorry.

    But time will tell, if I'm wrong.
     
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  17. nickurso

    nickurso Friend of Fred

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    The bigsby fix actually makes the bigsby more lively and usable
     
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  18. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    I agree tension bars are a problem on bigsbys.
    Look at the tension bar on my SG Deluxe - this bigsby has never worked well cos the break angle is too severe. I've done all kinds of things to fix it over the years & can only get it to just ok.

    But if you replace it with a new bigsby minus tension bar you're left with 2 drill holes showing then. And then on my SG the 2 bottom holes don't match up exactly with a new bigsby either so I'd be left with 3 holes showing soooooo - I just gave up on it.
    Fantastic SG otherwise :)

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  19. TV the Wired Turtle

    TV the Wired Turtle Friend of Fred

    Jul 25, 2009
    so cal
    @TSims1 fulltrons are like powertrons but w more top end, per Gretsch.. Gretsch is going full boar after the ES335 market and younger generation.. The tension bar is a must, not because of the set post bridge but the lower less pitched neck for faster, more rock based playing. The Panther is merely a double cut version of the 6120 w a center block, perfect for those used to playing a gretsch guitar w its floating bridge and bigsby set up, but too foreign to the gibby kids. I like the Broadcaster spec'd appointments and since I'm not a double cutaway type, the Jr is really tempting.
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  20. audept

    audept I Bleed Orange

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    Dec 1, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    Revolt against the Tension Bars:

    lynch mob.jpg
     
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  21. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    ok thanks TV.
    Not being a Powerton fan I'm not interested in fulltrons then.
    I'm a high gain rock player and TVJ Classic/Classic Plus combo has plenty enough output for me while still retaining great clarity, super versatility & twang.
    The gibby kids can have the Broadkaster - give me a Panther plz :)