Smallest Fully-Hollow Gretsch

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by Chet Harrison, Sep 22, 2020.

  1. Chet Harrison

    Chet Harrison Electromatic

    11
    Apr 27, 2020
    Brooklyn NY
    Now that is putting a little lead in my pencil. It's basically a Gretsch ES-140TC, which appeals to me even more than a Gretsch Casino Coupe. Would love to get my hands on one of those.
     
  2. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck I Bleed Orange

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    There are a few on Reverb but higher priced than they should be. The Guild equivalent, the M-65 Freshman, for sale at a good price now though on the site.

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    https://reverb.com/item/35031232-guild-m-65-freshman-3-4
     
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  3. Chet Harrison

    Chet Harrison Electromatic

    11
    Apr 27, 2020
    Brooklyn NY
    Thanks! I actually had the Guild M-65 Freshman 3/4 on my list of guitars to check out someday (it's a long list). I'm currently in Illinois, so this particular guitar is only a couple hours away by car.
     
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  4. Wayne Gretschzky

    Wayne Gretschzky Country Gent

    Aug 27, 2008
    East Coast
    I've reconsidered my recommendation of the Ibanez... simply because if you're name is "Chet" then you NEED to be playing a Gretsch! (it's like a rule)
     
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  5. section2

    section2 Country Gent

    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
    As far as I know, these are your options for small fully hollow Gretsches:
    • 6120JR (14" lower bout, single cutaway, one Filtertron pickup.)
    • 6120JR2 (same as above, but with two Filtertrons.)
    • 6118 Anniversary Jr (like the 6120JR2, but without binding on the neck, headstock, or F-holes.)
    • 6122 Country Gentleman Jr (like the 6120JR2, but with two cutaways.)
    • 3900 Synchromatic Jr (Jazz box with 15" lower bout and a single floating neck pickup.)
    None of these guitars are in production anymore, but you can usually find one or two on Reverb with a little patience. There are some different colour options depending on the model. The 6xxx-series Juniors typically list for about $1500 US. I was in the market for one last year and had my Reverb feed setup to alert me whenever one was listed, and I saw several floating between about $1450 and $1850. I'm surprised to hear that one is listed at $3200 right now. Unless it was played by the ghost of Chet Atkins himself, that's about twice what that guitar should cost.

    I don't believe they ever made a Junior with Dynas, but you can get a pair of TV Jones T-Armonds in Filtertron mounts, which should drop right in.

    The 3900 is a nice guitar at a much lower price if you can find one. It was made in Korea, whereas the 6xxx guitars were made in Japan. I found mine on a local classified ad site for about $475 Canadian ($365 US) two years ago. But it would be a real challenge to try to install a Dynasonic in a 3900. Fellow forum member @rcboals installed Filtertrons into his, and there's a great thread on it here. I reached out to him for advice on doing the same thing to my guitar, and his advice was basically: "don't."

    There are also some White Falcon Jr models floating around, but one of them is a center block model, and I believe the other one has a 16" lower bout. (They call it a junior because the original White Falcon is 17".)
     
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  6. Runamok

    Runamok Gretschie

    460
    Aug 25, 2017
    USA midwest
    If you want a Gretsch...
    What is the commonality between the ideal guitar wanted & the form factor of these alternate suggestions? How wide a lower bout, etc are you looking for in the hollowbody?

    Les Paul sz is like 13” lower bout?
    PRS Hollowbody II is 13” as well if its the same as their std sz.
     
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  7. swivel

    swivel Country Gent

    May 13, 2018
    PNW
    I love my George Benson. The work on it is impeccable.
     
  8. swivel

    swivel Country Gent

    May 13, 2018
    PNW
    BTW, they made the M-65 in a full size also some years. Kinda like the Aristocrat hollow.
     
  9. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck I Bleed Orange

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    The Aristocrat has long been one of my White Whale Guitars. Crazy prices now though. The reissues just aren't the same.
     
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  10. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
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    Verdict: yummy. Here is a 6120JR2 thats been Cochrane'd.
     
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  11. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
  12. Stefan87

    Stefan87 Synchromatic

    935
    May 20, 2019
    Brisbane, Australia
    the jnr models intrigue me but everytime I see one they just seem wrong, maybe it's dimension wise or something something always stops me from picking them of the wall and trying them out.

    I can see why they are popular though.
     
  13. Bertotti

    Bertotti Friend of Fred

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
  14. swivel

    swivel Country Gent

    May 13, 2018
    PNW
    Yeah, I had a 69 back in the day. Full hollow. Gold hardware and labeled a Bluesbird on the truss cover. I think it weighed like 5.5# ! It was great through a Marshall stack!
    In the early 2000's I bought one on Ebay for $600, but couldn't bond with it for some reason. Not the same at low volume I guess. Like a dummy I sold it for the same price.

    A lot of confusing models, solid body, full hollow , M-65 3/4 size, M-65 full scale, M-75, Bluesbird, Aristocrat... ugh!
     
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  15. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    One of the few Gibson guitars I GAS for is the Johnny A signature, hollow with carved top. Crazy expensive though.
     
  16. section2

    section2 Country Gent

    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
  17. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck I Bleed Orange

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    The Epiphone version is supposed to be very nice, at a very good price too.
     
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  18. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck I Bleed Orange

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
  19. Bertotti

    Bertotti Friend of Fred

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    Nope not juniors but tempting enough to I thought it was worth mentioning.
     
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  20. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    Indeed but imo what sets the guitar apart, aside from long scale and looks, is the carved top, which the Epiphone does not have.
     
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