New pedalboard time!

Discussion in 'Pedal Pushers Forum' started by TSims1, Feb 4, 2020.

  1. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    Atlanta

    See this chart:

    http://www.shootoutguitarcables.com/guitar-cables-explained/capacitance-chart.html

    Think of anything below 70 pf/m as low capacitance (Works out to about 22 pf/ft). In other terms, it is often said that 20-30 pf/ft is a well liked "sweet spot" for guitar cables in the typical 12-20 foot range. But Canare GS6 which I like very much is in the 50 pf/ft range and favored by several professional touring musicians. It's tough, handles well, is great to build with and to me sounds just right most of the time.

    For patch cables, it's hard to make a rule as their cumulative length is typically too short to matter as much.
     
  2. Bertotti

    Bertotti Friend of Fred

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    I used the Canare GS4 for my right angle pedal board cables. I might start making my own longer cables from the GS6? But I have some cables that just can't stand alongside the two Roland cables in similar lengths, that I bought they are so much darker. I have some proel oxygen-free some quantum low capacitance but they are short short cable and I don't notice a difference. But the no-name longer 20+footers just seem darker than my two Rolands. I use them all the time now.
     
  3. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    Atlanta
    I used the GS4 (if I recall correctly) for my first SqaurePlug patch cables. No name stuff can be very dark and have very high capacitance. The first Canare I built to replace a no name Guitar Center cheapo cable was a huge revelation high end content.

    I think if you compare a 15' Canare GS6 to a 15' Gepco for instance, you may notice more highs with the Gepco. But you may not. I don't think you would call the Canare dark if you heard it by itself. I have been staying with 15', 12' and 10' cables. If you build longer, it may become more noticeable as it's all about total capacitance.

    If you think you might want lower capacitance than GS6, I highly recommend the Gepco XB20UB/Lake AVB20UGC if you can find it.

    Here's the list again:

    http://www.shootoutguitarcables.com/guitar-cables-explained/capacitance-chart.html

    On that list, I have used a couple of the Sommers and Gotham and Mogami. Hated most of them for handling and building. Some of them had a sticky substance all over the copper shielding. The Gotham's sheath was loose and the cable had a tendency to rotate inside the sheath. Really loved the Gepco and GS6 overall. Bestronic makes a good in-house cable (0446) but the diameter is kind of large, so it needs G&H plugs. Capacitance is low and it's well made and handles well. Their 0441 is a GS6 competitor with lower capacitance. I might try it some time.

    These guys have a number of good things to choose from:

    https://btpa.com/Bulk-Product/
     
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  4. Merc

    Merc Country Gent

    May 6, 2017
    Florida
    How’s about seeing this beautiful board put together? And what’s your favorite verb on the Collider so far... or are they all tops? I thought I remember you were a big fan of the Immerse before so I was sort of surprised to see you not go for it. Although you get the added bonus of a two in one. :)
     
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  5. TSims1

    TSims1 Gretschified

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta

    That’s exactly why I chose this. Space saver. I wanted a minimalist board that does a lot. But not too much......basically cover all the bases I need in as few pedals as possible.

    I literally JUST wired it up! Haven’t even plugged it in yet.......but its getting power so......it’s time to go rock out for awhile. I’ll report back!


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  6. Bertotti

    Bertotti Friend of Fred

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    Any more input on a collider would be great!
     
  7. TSims1

    TSims1 Gretschified

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta
    Okay - just put everything through it’s paces.

    I made great choices. The Nocturne stuff is wonderful, but I already knew that. This wasn’t my first round with these pedals.

    The Strobostomp is totally awesome. I love being able to choose the colors of the led screen. I went with bright green because......well, geniuses choose green. ;)

    The Keeley Compressor + is outstanding. Then again, I expected that. Robert knows how to do comps. The blend knob(of course)is key. The TONE knob is what’s really cool. You can brighten or darken to taste. Never had a compressor with that feature before and it’s awesome when switching between singles or humbugs.

    That leaves us with the Collider. There is not ONE doggone thing not to love about it. Super easy to dial in. Every sound is fantastic and musical. The tap works great. The tweakability factor is high, yet it doesn’t seem too much.

    I am SO HAPPY with every doggone thing on this board. Mission TOTALLY accomplished.
     
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  8. blueruins

    blueruins Country Gent

    May 28, 2013
    Savannah, GA
    Very cool! Thanks so much Tony...I’m getting ready to do something similar so this was a big help. Definitely getting the Collider.
    I have a Barber LTD for overdrive which I absolutely love with single coils. It nails that Keith Richards level dirt. Would you recommend the Fluid Drive as a pedal to use in worship for higher gain situations than the Barber?
    I guess what I’m looking for is a smooth medium gain distortion that doesn’t sound too metal.
     
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  9. Merc

    Merc Country Gent

    May 6, 2017
    Florida
    Thanks for the run down.
     
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  10. TSims1

    TSims1 Gretschified

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta

    Absolutely. Its a fanTASTIC stacker. I’m using the Mystery Brain preamp for my cleans, the ABBY for my punch in the gut, and the Fluid Drive for my “MORE”. It’s awesome.
     
  11. Ducerro

    Ducerro Electromatic

    71
    Dec 4, 2019
    Yoakum, TX
    Enjoying watching your "pedalboard" journey! Mine's coming up late next week or the week after.

    Got most of my pedals in, but one is on a slow FedEx ride across the nation. And they just extended their delivery window two more days. Not to go too far off topic, but if you ever order from ProAudioStar expect pony express to deliver your order... That pedal was ordered late last Friday so I didn't expect it to ship until Monday, but now they are showing it will be late next week before it's here.... 11 days on a FedEx truck! I know it's "free" shipping, but really! 11 Days! Never again...

    Finally found a good deal earlier today on a pedalboard and power supply at AMS. Pulled the trigger on both and those will be here on Saturday. Also "free" shipping...

    11 days vs 2??? Wow, just wow... Needless to say that will be my last order at PAS...
     
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  12. TSims1

    TSims1 Gretschified

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta

    Waiting is the WOOOOORST. I can sympathize man.
     
  13. calebaaron666

    calebaaron666 Country Gent

    Aug 15, 2018
    Portland, Maine
    Curious, where do you like your deluxe reverb’s volume and your brain preamp volume for your clean tone?
     
  14. Lacking Talent

    Lacking Talent Synchromatic

    857
    Aug 5, 2010
    Los Angeles, CA
    Also, http://www.ovnilab.com/articles/cablechoice.shtml
     
  15. TSims1

    TSims1 Gretschified

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta

    I say “clean”, but really my clean is edge of breakup. My clean starts where if I strum lightly it’s clean, but if I dig in with fingers or pic it starts to offer some hair.

    So the Deluxe Reverb is between 6 and 7, and I’m setting the Brain to unity gain.
     
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  16. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    Atlanta
  17. calebaaron666

    calebaaron666 Country Gent

    Aug 15, 2018
    Portland, Maine
    Thanx! Same here!
    I’m always curious how people use their brains.
    I was, for a time, keeping my DR volume at 4 and pushing it to where it would be at 6 with the brain. Now I keep the brain knob at 1 o’clock and my DR volume around 7. It’s magic.
     
  18. Merc

    Merc Country Gent

    May 6, 2017
    Florida
    Btw, plus 1 on green for the tuner color. While not exact, it does remind me of the glow from old instrument panels from some classic cars.

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  19. Crooner

    Crooner Friend of Fred

    Apr 15, 2009
    Boston
    Nice looking board, Tony! I wish I cooked go with something so straight forward and paired down.

    How are you managing presets on the Collider?
     
  20. TSims1

    TSims1 Gretschified

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta

    Right now just managing from the device itself. A quick hold down on the reverb will allow you to scroll through the 4 presets(though you can have up to 8 if you wish). Stage time will tell if I add an external exp or not.
     
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