Need to replace stock Gretsch strap screws!

Discussion in 'Technical Side of Things' started by Chmason85, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. Chmason85

    Chmason85 Gretschie

    403
    May 1, 2018
    Philadelphia
    Hey all, any recommendations for a good replacement for the stock barrel screws or whatever they’re called? These things unscrew themselves and almost made me drop my guitar the other night when the heel one just came completely out of the body!! I kind of just want to go with some large standard fender/Gibson style ones, or should I get a set of strap locks? I’ve heard they’re not always the most reliable either
     
  2. capnhiho

    capnhiho Synchromatic

    703
    Feb 16, 2013
    California
    I used Titebond wood glue to secure the original strap buttons on my 5420. I kinda like ‘em with a wide, soft leather strap.

    On the other hand I installed Dunlop strap locks on my Double Jet. They seem more appropriate on a solid body.

    YMMV
     
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  3. BCRatRod73

    BCRatRod73 Gretschie

    246
    Sep 1, 2020
    Mississippi
    Had some of those red rubber washers lying around. Put it over the top of the strap and screwed the pin in. Not a strap lock but if I check how tight it is every time it seems to work pretty well for me. Plus, It looks kinda cool on my Rat Rod.
     
  4. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    Straplocks. Do it right the first time.
     
  5. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
    Admin Post
    I favor Schaller strap locks.
     
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  6. section2

    section2 Country Gent

    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
    Is the screw coming out of the wood, or is the metal barrel unscrewing itself from the screw?

    If it's the former, you can fix it with a bit of wood glue. Or you can remove the screw, fill the hole with a dowel and wood glue, and drill a new pilot hole for the screw.

    If it's the latter, a dab of blue Loctite on the threads will fix it. It worked like a charm on my 5620. (Just make sure it's blue Loctite. Red Loctite will permanently bond the barrel onto the screw.)
     
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  7. Andrew6128

    Andrew6128 Electromatic

    39
    Oct 20, 2019
    Japan, Tokyo
    If the screw part is undoing itself from the body, just tighten it with a plier and put on the knob and strap and you’re set.
    This worked many times for me on numerous proline Gretschs.

    Schallers are the best lock straps if you want to opt for those. But most strap locks just look clunky.
     
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  8. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
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    Yup , Schaller is the magic word for me too
     
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  9. Bubbalou88

    Bubbalou88 Electromatic

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    Sep 25, 2020
    Dallas-Ft.Worth Texas
    +1
     
  10. Bubbalou88

    Bubbalou88 Electromatic

    50
    Sep 25, 2020
    Dallas-Ft.Worth Texas
    Concerning Schaller strap locks. I never use the "Cheesy" smaller diameter screw that comes with them. I take the stock screw and slightly grind off the outer edge of the head by rotating it on a grinder wheel so it fit's.
     
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  11. BCRatRod73

    BCRatRod73 Gretschie

    246
    Sep 1, 2020
    Mississippi
    Works great for me. The screw tops stay on tight pretty well. I like ‘em. 5A4842B2-D00A-4735-A033-003BD874B3A9.jpeg
     
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  12. HypotenusLuvTriangle

    HypotenusLuvTriangle Country Gent

    Oct 27, 2010
    Whittier, Ca
    Get yourself some Schaller style strap locks.
     
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  13. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
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    Amen!
     
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  14. Tony65x55

    Tony65x55 Gretschified

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    Sep 23, 2011
    The 'Shwa, Ontario, Canada
    I personally prefer Dunlop straplocks but about half my guitars wear Schallers. Both are terrific. I also put a tiny drop of Gorilla Glue on the screw threads that go into the guitar.

    I know it isn't a popular opinion but I think the Gretsch strap locks bite. In fact, the only thing that saved my old Country Club was the fact it landed on my foot.

    Strap locks all the way!
     
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  15. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
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    I agree. I tried the OEM strap locks once and almost dropped a guitar because of it. It only took once for me to learn my lesson. They look great, but are a poor design.
     
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  16. GlenP

    GlenP Country Gent

    Jul 23, 2019
    WA
    That screw actually has a small Phillips head on it. If totally stripped out, filling with a wood dowel and re-drilling is a good option. If just a little loose, a drop of wood glue, and maybe a short length of a toothpick to make it tight would help also.

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  17. Randy99CL

    Randy99CL Synchromatic

    790
    Feb 17, 2020
    Albuquerque
    I saw a player recommend Dunlop strap locks so tried them and they work great.
    A few places sell them for less than $10 per set so they're cheap enough to put on every guitar.

    I don't like leaving a strap on a guitar in a case and the locks make it easy to take it off. Then I roll it up and put it in a spot where it will help brace the guitar.
    A second benefit is that I don't have to buy a strap for each instrument. You might actually get away with just one, I have about 10 for 15 guitars and I bought a pair of expensive Italia straps because I can use them on all of them.

    I cringe at the thought of the strap coming off the button on one of my Gretsches. That's how the output jacks get punched up into the body.

    Edit: and I've never heard of a strap coming off with the Dunlop locks.
    https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/dunlop-dual-design-straplok-system?rNtt=dunlop strap locks&index=1
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  18. Trash Kidd

    Trash Kidd Country Gent

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    54
    Dec 14, 2015
    London U.K.
    The Gretsch locking strap buttons look great but in reality aren't practical.. especially if you play live.. Every set I’ve had have unscrewed themselves..

    I have Schaller strap locks on all my guitars now..
     
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  19. SAguitar

    SAguitar Gretschie

    343
    Jan 17, 2020
    Oregon
    All of my guitars have Dunlop Strap Locks, even my acoustic guitar. Well, except for my Gretsch 6120, and I really have to do something about that.
     
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  20. Axis39

    Axis39 Country Gent

    Age:
    52
    Jun 2, 2008
    Beaumont, CA
    I have had straps come loose with strap locks. I never much cared for how far out most of them stick... But the second time I had one come loose on stage, I went home and pulled them off of all of my guitars.

    It was the nut on the part that actually attaches to the strap that works it's way loose. I guess you could put osme locktite on it... But, eh.

    Almost all of my guitars have a strap for just that guitar. I very rarely take the straps off my guitars (even when they go into their cases). I use the beer washers.

    I'm also religious about giving my Gretsch buttons a light twist to make sure they're tight every time I pick one up. It's just become second nature. Never had a fail since doing it this way.
     
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