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Discussion in 'Pedal Pushers Forum' started by OzzPocket, Sep 8, 2020.
MysteryBrain or Strymon El Capistan. I have not tried the Decco but I hear good rumors.
Thanks for all the replies so far.....originally, I had only planned on spending about $150ish.....but I see prices have gone up since the last time I bought a delay pedal (around 1985)...;-). ...But then, so has the number of choices available...
Some had suggested older, used pedals....I was actually hoping for something brand new, and was looking originally at the Boss DM-2W, MXR Carbon Copy, Way Huge Aquapuss....or maybe splurge for the Supro Delay....
The Strymon pedals seem really nice...but, comparatively expensive, and they seem a little "complicated" (meaning feature rich, as well)...still...really nice...I keep returning to them...lol
The Nocturne pedals....I wasn't familiar with them....it looks like they can only be ordered direct? And it appears that the "Mystery Brain" pedal is only pre-order right now? It seems like a great pedal, but was a bit out of my original price range (I'm thinking I may have to be flexible within reason on price), and apparently not currently available...I don't know how long it normally takes them to re-stock, or how many orders they get...but, I may have to opt out of that one, as I'd like to get it relatively soon.
I'm probably over-researching this....but that's all part of the fun, right?
The MXR Carbon Copy is a great pedal too.
I have one on my very basic board as well a a Mystery Brain.
I use the Mystery Brain for my slap back echo & the Carbon Copy for longer delays on a few solos..
How's the build quality on the Nocturne pedals? Quality parts/knobs/switches? Are they prone to any problems or "finicky-ness" that you've experienced? Any idea how long the wait usually is if you get one from them? The couple of videos I watched, were kind of cool with the Mystery Brain.
Is there any kind of "gain boost" when you trigger that pedal? (or the Carbon Copy?).
I've got a Vibe pedal that sounds really good....but when you turn it on, there is a pretty massive increase in volume that can't be dialed out.... If I'm recording something, or just playing around at home, that's not a problem, but if I'm jamming, or playing in a live situation, it makes it kind of unusable.
The build quality on the Mystery Brain is 100% brilliant.
It’s the only pedal anyone needs!
The pre amp really shapes your tone the echo side is fantastic & I use the Abby switch to boost my solos.
Search on YouTube for demos.
Mine took 2 weeks from the day I ordered to arrive to my home here in the UK..
Flashback 2 to be exact.
Small footprint, cheap, great, super versatile, tap tempo and 100s toneprints you can download via smart phone.
About the only feature on it I don't use is Tape echo - I have zero need for it
@MKunie , didn't you have a BS-301 for sale a few days ago ?
I've got the original...same talking points,tho. Except I like tape echo for that warbly tone.
Assuming it’s within your price range and you’re interested, you may not have to wait long for a Mystery Brain. Tavo is the actual Brain behind its creation and posted this earlier on Instagram. He’s here as @TV the Wired Turtle and would be able to answer for certain here or via PM if you’d like. Keep in mind for the price you’re getting the actual RE-301 pre with it. As well as all the best parts and it’s built here in the USA.
Worth every penny and MORE.
yeah tape echo is nice to have and I might use it once per year..... maybe
But I'm certainly not interested in a delay pedal that specialises in it - or that's all it does
With the OP's budget I'd go with a Flashback 2
yep, almost sold my El Cap after about 6 months, was getting frustrated with the “secondary features” (each knob has two functions) but glad I kept it and got to know it. Would be cool if there were small LED’s on the housing, around each knob to let you know where the secondary is set, that would be a huge help, but alas, you just gotta “feel it out”. Great pedal, but yeah some learning curve there.
I'd get a used aqua puss.
Cheap, reliable, amazing slap back and sci fi oscillations.
I have a Dunlop Echoplex, but I don't get on very well with it. I also have a Carbon Copy, but find it a bit ... meh. The one I always seem to come back to is the Digitech Obscura, even though I just use it for slapback 90% of the time. I find the Tone and Degrade controls really useful.
Love my amazon AD80. Short slap back to a nice organic delay.
Keeley makes a pretty nice pedal geared towards Sun records sonics. Less lethal to the wallet.
yep yep, BIG VOTE for the DM-3!! Too much attention has been on the DM-2 IMO... the DM-3 Has a better compander response, yielding better headroom when stacked with other pedals resulting in a tighter slapback! ))))))))))) .... and the active line buffer makes this echo sit perfectly at the end of your signal chain, making your gretsch sound even nicer'r. But its analog echo, 300ms roughly of slapback.. perfect for general country, rockabilly, blues, swing, etc.
Most vintage recordings were done with tape echo and mechanical tape echo recorders have wow and flutter variables, as well as speed drift and tape stretch.
Wow is a low-frequency cyclical speed variation, which is very common on vinyl records if the centre hole is punched slightly off-centre, of if the disc is badly warped. Flutter is a much faster-frequency version of the same thing, typically caused by a worn tape-machine capstan or a lumpy pinch-roller. Scrape flutter is a higher-frequency effect again, typically caused by the inherent 'stiction' or vibration of tape against the heads as it is dragged past.
All resulting in a delicious harmonic artifact cocktail that sits mysteriously infused into the slap back repeats giving whispy slurs ala audio ambience aka perceived sonic spacial dimension. Some hear a chorusing behind the notes
or a vibrato like doubling of the signal...
so a simple analog echo, is quite void of those desirable mechanical artifacts even though pedals like the Boss DM-3 or the Memory Man DOooo provide us with a sweet browned out, smeared slapback repeat of the original signal in sequenced degradation.
btw.. here's a link to the step by step how-to-vid on modifying your 80s boss delay, that used a 12v unregulated power supply... to accept the modern Regulated 9v pwr supply so that the pedal operates as the designer originally intended. Too often you hear from players saying that their vintage boss DM-2/DM-3 or even CE-2 chorus "sounds dark".. thats mostly because ding dongs are starving the poor things of their intended power requirement.
"I have not tried the Decco but I hear good rumors."
The Deco is another outstanding Strymon product. Not quite as "technical" as the El Cap, not as many bells and whistles per se, but what it does it does as well as anything on the market. I have one and it goes to most shows with me...at least the ones where I'm not taking a DM-2
Why not purchase a kit and build one yourself? It's a lot fun putting the pieces on the board and soldering it. Just don't inhale the smoke.