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Discussion in 'Pedal Pushers Forum' started by thunder58, Feb 8, 2020.
Great point, Tavo.
On a impulse, based on a random recommendation, I got this DonGeoMac Fuzz Face clone with germanium diode. A fantastic fuzz housed in a junction box that sounds like it looks (if you don't like the looks, then it sounds the opposite of its looks). Sturdy, stable (especially with germanium diode) and dependable, I definitely recommend it.
Short answer is NO - not all pedals are the same imo.
I would never have bought more than 1 if they were
Metal cases are definitely better than plastic - I won't buy a plastic case pedal - deal breaker
I also won't buy another buffered pedal - already have 1 as first in line so the rest are true bypass.
My fuzz doesn't sound like my delay and it has different controls.
I won't buy non versatile one trick pony pedals - another deal breaker
I also won't buy el cheapo pedals with poor quality plastic parts, switches, cases etc.
I find it a false economy cos on average they have a short life span, especially if you gig.
And all of the el cheapos I've seen have plastic cases, are buffered tone suckers and are non versatile.
Cos I've played/owned 100s over the years I've become very picky with pedals
Best answer so far ........straight and to the point
I think my Rangemaster Treble booster clone(as used by Brian May and Rory Gallagher at one time) has 21 parts including case and knobs... the Van Weelden Royal Overdrive, 400 parts. So no, not every pedal is the same.
I have a swollen Pickle,, like it enough I ain’t even gonna go to the doc for a cure!
and gtttrrr !!!!
Frankly, in my mid 50s, I'm at the stage where I tend to make make pretty much everything sound the same.. . like "me". It's what my senses expect. I thin out fat things and fatten up thin things.... need I go on? It all ends up just like me.
When I buy a new pedal I'm hoping for a better "me".
Isn't that how all products are pitched?
Now your talking!
I don’t know how much of that is over the years some of us are just born knowing what we want and we go for it without much give.
I’ve tried some of the cheap stuff, and they work fine. Usually. But I never quite feel confident in them.
I think some of this is predicated on your circumstance. Are you a bedroom dweller without a lot of extra money, or are simply frugal? Plenty of super fun inexpensive options to totally get you into any tonal ballpark.
Or are you a weekend warrior gigger? You may spring for the solid mid-range stuff. Or multi-effects like Helix or Headrush etc etc.
Are you a pro who wants and frankly deserves the best cause you make all or some of your income from playing? Then you may want to choose and use the higher end stuff that you know is built to the highest quality and has quality tweaks/mods built in.
I tend to fall into the latter camp, and over time have decided I really like builders that tweak things in the ways that I appreciate when I’m onstage. I love NOCTURNE stuff for that reason. Tavo is a player who plays out and appreciates a wide variety of music. Me too. His tweaks and mods that he builds into his circuits paired with his purposeful component choices leave me feeling confident and satisfied when I’m onstage.
Neunaber is another I dig. And my new Source Audio Collider is so well thought out and practical for my situation that it’s WORTH spending $400 on it.
Everyone’s situation is different and willingness to spend is different. But IS there a difference? Yes. Of course and absolutely.
You forgot one group, the talentless guys who love the good tone but can't play for crap. I fall into that group. I could go for entry or more cost-effective options and did at first. But as my tone tastes developed I got sucked into the more costly options, because they had a specific option or tone I had liked. I am odd I can sit in a room and play the same line for hours playing with pedals without pedals perfectly happy in my ignorance and just enjoying the tones. I think if your a homebody like me and the pedal sounds good to you and it is inexpensive then go for it, if it is expensive it sounds good to you then go for it. No rules just be happy in your tones.
Y'know, Rich, you shouldn't troll the forum you moderate!
I'll admit, I have more money than free time. I do my research and get the pedal that I feel will least likely be set aside. I dont want to try pedals, I just want pedals to do what I want them to do. All this means I wind up spending way to much on pedals, but whatever, it's fun and I love my board.
I am trying to refine it now and when I think it is in equilibrium, order a custom board.
I have a black Russian that I absolutely love. When I stack it with a mild overdrive I get a cool ZZ top type sound. I also will add a sub n up to get a nice bottom to it when wanted. I don't use it as a fuzz per say, just to make it...dirty. A nice dirty grit,ha. It sounds good on my Gretsch as well as my Telecaster. My Les Paul really dishes out the dirt. I also like that Queens of the Stoneage sound. Basically, you are just going to have to experiment with different pedals. I've had my Black Russian for a long time, but just recently figured how to properly use it to get "that sound. " Good luck and happy jamming.
Don't overlook the TC Electronic Smorgasbord line of pedals. They are available at around $50 US at GC new and cheaper used. They have re-done Behringer insides with sturdy switches and are housed in a metal "sarcophagus" like enclosure -- sure to survive a nuclear bomb blast. They sound great and top load power and line connectors, as a result they stack nice and tight on a pedal board.
The fuzzes in this line are the Rusty Fuzz and the Honey Pot fuzz. Tons of great YouTube videos out there. I'm happy with the Honey Pot and have an eye on getting the Rusty Fuzz.
... just recently found something I find interesting and definitely appealing:
This is ... an overdrive, yeah, we all have seen and heard a ton of them, but ... this one has a special feature I see as extremely cool - you can switch between three sets of diodes. The basic circuit seems to be not exotic, but this feature isn't something you see everywhere. I thought of it myself, of modding a pedal to include exactly this, but as I appreciate people coming up with uncommon ideas (she had it long before me), and she lives on building these, I might buy this later this year (budget is a bit tight at the moment). This certainly is one of the things that distinguishes the countless copies of well known circuits under countless brand names with minor changes, or none at all, from the innovative and unique approches you find in one-(wo)man-operations - this is one of those that are not the same as them all.
She seems to know what she's doing, and I like that this single pedal may even be able to replace more than one of the usual suspects, as the clipping diodes are crucial to how the over reacts to drive and therefore you here have a three-in-one here - those are built to order as I understand, won't be cheap (I'm hesitating to ask her how much it would cost in germany when I can't pull the trigger right now but will have to wait a bit...), but ... in case anyone might be interested, and as I like the approach for the reasons stated above, I thought I might point the interested reader into this direction.
Anyway - she seems to be cool. The Hi-Ball convinces me to give it a shot, but sadly not today but in 1...6 months. , a few unexpectable things happened, on top of Corona... But ... convinced is convinced - me wanna have!
So, are they all the same?
Some are, some not. These, it seems, are not.
The VHT V-Drive might be for you, it is in the TS vein but has 11 diodes which can be combined in several ways by a rotary knob.
Oh man ... 11!
... and then, on top, a blend knob like the Sparkledrive has... I really, really, really love this feature - whatever has both options is, like, the jackpot, even for a non-gambler.
Will have a look into, thanks!
Last week I dove head first into the world of delay pedals......Conclusion? 2 types.....delay....some specializing in slapback and those that bring the spacial/ethereal echo sound. Definitely a wide range for each type and many differences.
Echo? I want get my "Pink Floyd freak on"........the solution...... Gilmour used the Binson Echorec in the late '60s thru the '70s. My choice now is the Catalinbread Echorec or the Catalinbread Adineko (I have to salute Ruger for introducing me to this). My slapback rockabilly solution would be a Nocturne Brain choice.
This week has been all lust for the a tube screamer. Most seem to emulate Ibanez TS808 and vary a little from there. Personally, I'm picking up the TS9. Should've grabbed one 15+ years ago.