Legit or Not? Players Edition Jet

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by DoubleEh, Apr 21, 2020.

  1. DoubleEh

    DoubleEh Electromatic

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    Apr 21, 2020
    Regina
    Looking at a deal for this Jet and theres a couple of things that are out of the norm enough that warrant digging into. HBs installed is fine, common enough swap that doesnt raise flags. But thumbnail inlays appear to be out of place. No pickguard and no marks for where a guard would have been. Sn appears ok, JT1701xxxx. Logo, font on the decal look consistent. Hard to tell if it's just lighting but colour could be a little off. Looking for some input from others more well informed than me! Anyone aware of any PE Jets produced with thumbnails and no guard?

    Cheers!

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  2. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Dec 23, 2010
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    ...and something tells me you'll never be comfortable with this if you purchase it ( just my hunch )
    BTW - welcome to the forum :)
     
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  3. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    It is legit, and CME knows their stuff. One of our members, @EdwardsKim, works there, i suggest contacting him. He has played matchmaker for a few people here.
     
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  4. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Eeeh !! why didn't I think of that :rolleyes:
     
  5. jfassett

    jfassett Synchromatic

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    Dec 9, 2017
    Tucson
    I saw that one on Facebook for sale as a 6228 used for $2.000, pickups a the first thing I noticed as well as the inlays, a 6228 has block inlays.
    Not sure what that is!
     
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  6. radd

    radd Country Gent

    Dec 27, 2017
    Santa Cruz
    There is a G6131T players edition that looks just like that, crescent inlays, but with a Biggs.
     
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  7. Well, first - welcome to G-T forums . . .
    city sounds like something in the great north country -
    maybe Alberta (?) [nope - looked it up SK ! close to Montana (?)

    I like these kind of questions, actually . . .
    I'll chime in - maybe a neck switch with the thumbnail inlays (?)
    - or - some year variation in production (?) at certain factories.
    No pickguard maybe is more telling though (?)

    JT is deciphered as Japan -Terada plant -
    Gretsch had three production codes in Japan locations,
    but really I dunno . . . experts here can track the serial no. better than moi.

    Good luck.
     
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  8. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    It says it has a 10" fretboard radius. Lots of inconsistencies on this one. Seems like someone tried to turn a Jet into a Les Paul.
     
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  9. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    This PE is a good example of a PE being inferior to a stock Jet Firebird imo :eek:
     
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  10. jarrodtaylor

    jarrodtaylor Gretschie

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    Mar 14, 2019
    Delray Beach, FL
    That doesn't look like a PE Jet neck. The truss rod cover is too big, it's missing the 19th fret inlay, and the heel isn't contoured.
     
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  11. DoubleEh

    DoubleEh Electromatic

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    Apr 21, 2020
    Regina
    Thanks all! Yeah, that it did flow through CME at one point does give me some comfort. Just a bit of an odd duck and that theres no Cert or case plus the inconsistencies raised some flags. I certainly think the seller is on the level but Thunder58 you're probably right that it will probably always be in the back of my mind. Some food for thought.

    And thank you all for the warm welcome!
     
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  12. DoubleEh

    DoubleEh Electromatic

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    Apr 21, 2020
    Regina
    Yep we border Montana and ND. Montana is one of our favourite road trips!
     
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  13. Uncle Daddy

    Uncle Daddy Friend of Fred

    Jan 19, 2012
    Maldon UK
    The front pickup ring will cover the hole for the pickguard screw, but that won't fit anymore because of the new rings. There'd be a couple of small holes in the side, but it's hard to see because of the reflections.

    Personally, I wouldn't want this in my armoury. It'd be too difficult to move forward. I'd question the statement from the OP that a humbucker swap is a common mod in a Proline. People generally buy a Gretsch for the Gretsch sound. There's no going back on this one if the holes have been routed out.
     
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  14. michelb

    michelb Synchromatic

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    Just want to say .. Heresy!
    But you are welcome ;)
     
  15. jarrodtaylor

    jarrodtaylor Gretschie

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    Mar 14, 2019
    Delray Beach, FL
    That hole would still be visible. I did that swap on mine and it was definitely still visible. The humbucker rings still screw into the same four holes as the filtertron rings, it’s mostly the pickup opening that’s bigger.
     
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  16. Merc

    Merc Country Gent

    May 6, 2017
    Florida
    Didn’t you swap yours out for regular Filter’Trons? I thought I read a post that the regular Filter’Tron rings were the same outer diameter but with a narrower inside diameter. If so I imagined the holes would not be visible.
     
  17. jarrodtaylor

    jarrodtaylor Gretschie

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    Mar 14, 2019
    Delray Beach, FL
    I’ve put about a dozen different pickups in there at this point.

    The TV Jones filtertrons are narrower than the Gretsch filtertrons. Humbuckers are wider.

    The four outer screws for the rings are always in the same place.

    I didn’t have to do any routing either, not sure what that’s about.
     
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  18. jarrodtaylor

    jarrodtaylor Gretschie

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    Mar 14, 2019
    Delray Beach, FL
    Found a pic. Those rings would have to be huge to cover the pickguard hole.

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    And bonus pic of the contoured heel.

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  19. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    I dunno

    Was there ever a PE made where they were silly enough to replace filtertrons with a pair of PAF style humbuckers.
    Gretsch wouldn't have sold many if they did.

    And I've never seen anyone else do this mod.
    Why buy an expensive Jet and try to turn it into an LP?

    If someone did it as a mod it takes at least $1000 off the resale value imo.
    Would cost you $300 to reverse the stupidity with TV Jones filtertrons.
     
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