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keeping the Bigsby in tune

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by foo606, Mar 20, 2017.

  1. foo606

    foo606 Electromatic

    30
    Mar 17, 2017
    uk
    Ok so G and D string go out of tune after some soft use of Bigsby .
    I guees this is down to the nut not being cut properly .
    So my question is lubriction help sort this or will I have to cut the nut to aid the string movement .
    Any Advice would be much appreciated , thank you .
     
  2. Salsg

    Salsg Gretschie

    132
    Nov 9, 2016
    Southern California
    With my 5420, I did not get satisfactory results until I slotted the nut and filed the bridge/replaced with tru arc.
    Working on the nut made a big difference
     
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  3. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    1. Proper slotted nut
    2. Big Bends lubrication
    3. A good (rockin) bridge
    and check the Bigs for proper working. And yes, check the strings: are they wound up perfectly on the tuners?
     
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  5. Tele295

    Tele295 Country Gent

    Jun 4, 2008
    Ventura, CA
    Agreed, although I use Break-Free as a lubricant instead of Big Bends.

    Any place the string touches metal/wood/bone, etc. is an opportunity for binding - tuners, nut, bridge, roller bar, anchor bar. Make sure everything is clean and lubricated, like a gun.
     
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  6. G5422T

    G5422T Gretschie

    348
    May 24, 2012
    usa
    And............don't forget, a properly "strung" guitar with a Bigsby will stay in tune! :)
     
  7. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Country Gent

    Feb 6, 2015
    In the USA
    I've used ChapStick in the nut slots.

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    I'm not a fan of the rocking bridge (it doesn't provide the sustain that a standard bar bridge does) but, it may be a viable option in this scenario.
     
  8. foo606

    foo606 Electromatic

    30
    Mar 17, 2017
    uk
    Thats a cheap alternative , how long does it last ?
     
  9. foo606

    foo606 Electromatic

    30
    Mar 17, 2017
    uk
    The strings are what are on when they left the factory D'arrio XL.
    Bigsby is a b60 licensed , and to be honest I stil reckon on being the nut , so lubricate this and then see how it fairs before thinking of cutting the nut a little .
     
  10. Tele295

    Tele295 Country Gent

    Jun 4, 2008
    Ventura, CA
    Look at your nut material, too. I've got a brass nut on my 5120, and I feel it creates problems. I have bone on my other Bigsby equipped guitars and I don't have similar problems. I believe Setzer uses graphite nuts for the same reason.
     
  11. foo606

    foo606 Electromatic

    30
    Mar 17, 2017
    uk
    Synthectic bone Ie plastic on this one .
     
  12. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    If you don't have nut files let a luthier lokk at the nut!

    At least the Hot Rods are stocked with Delrin nuts- same like the 5420 1st generation. A well slotted Delrin nut is hard to beat.
     
  13. TSims1

    TSims1 Friend of Fred

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta
    The nut almost always needs to be addressed. I don't know why they don't have specific nuts cut/made/installed for and on Gretsch guitars at the factory(since an overwhelming majority of Gretsch players use Bigsby's)but they don't.
     
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  14. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    Sorry ZackyDog, but especially a (massive) rockin bridge like the Compton provides sustain dramatically!
     
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  15. TSims1

    TSims1 Friend of Fred

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta

    Agreed. Comptons have been beneficial to my guitars 100% of the time.
     
  16. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Country Gent

    Feb 6, 2015
    In the USA
    I was speaking about the rocking bar bridge, that uses a small amount of contact to the bridge posts and thumbwheels.
     
  17. TSims1

    TSims1 Friend of Fred

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta

    Do you have a Compton bridge in your arsenal at all? Just curious.
     
  18. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Country Gent

    Feb 6, 2015
    In the USA
    Yes, indeed, at one time; I prefer the TruArc non-rocking bar bridge.
     
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  19. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    I've found that the secured bridge on the electros needs to be unlocked for better tone, more overtones and more sustain. On the secured bridge the bridge base got little or none contact to the guitars top. The Compton bridge got massive contact to the thumbwheels.
     
  20. nickurso

    nickurso Friend of Fred

    Age:
    51
    Dec 24, 2012
    New Orleans la.
    I agree with the above, the nut needs to be properly set up and lubrication anywhere the strings touch anything. I use white lithium grease it's way cheaper then nut sauce and there are a lot of less expensive lubricants you can use.
     
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  21. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Country Gent

    Feb 6, 2015
    In the USA
    Were you talking to me?