Jets (which model?)

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  1. mschafft

    mschafft Synchromatic

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    Jan 19, 2017
    Switzerland
    Kinda GASing for one. Can't seem to find the right model for me.
    G5220 seems nice and stable (has a Streamliner Vibe with the Broadtrons).
    G5230T looks great, especially in blue, black or Cadillac Green (wish the latter had gold hardware) but not sure it would bring much more to the table than my G5420T.
    Higher-end models are priced way above these two but look fantastic...
    Any input welcome. Cheers!
     
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  2. stiv

    stiv Country Gent

    Sep 12, 2014
    Florence, Italy
    I bought an used 5220 in black a couple of months ago. I never considered a 5230T just because I don't like B5 and I prefere big block inlays (on Jets) over thumbnails. To me, it's a great guitar for the money. Finish, tone, playability, details all appear to me like those of a higher level guitar.
    I've had a Jet Club and a Synchromatic Jet before and you really can feel the difference, playing wise more than tone-wise (which is personal).
    I've never had a Proline Jet in hands but I had some vintage one (like a '61 Firebird, in pre lockdown days). The difference is huge, but only in "mojo": vintage guitars just have their own dimension.
    I wasn't completely sold on Broadtrons just because I already had a "Jet sound" in my mind even before buy the 5220, so I went for filterton-like pickups. I also love the G-Tailpiece look so I bought it (as well as the Towner for the TOM holes) but it's still there, sitting in a drawer. The Jet is so good as it is that I'm almost afraid to mess up with it...:)
    I have other guitars that sound way better than the 5220, but all in all the Jet it's always the one in my hands.
    I'd probably try to buy a Duo Jet in the future but right now, I'm more and more happy with the Electro.
    My 2 eurocents. ;)
     
  3. mschafft

    mschafft Synchromatic

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    Jan 19, 2017
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    Thanks a lot. That's VERY helpful!
     
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  4. JT19

    JT19 Gretschie

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    Nov 28, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    I've recently owned a 5220 (Casino Gold) and a 5230T (Firebird Red), and liked them both quite a bit. I preferred the 5230T simply because I love Bigsbys... but I spent less time adjusting the tuning with the 5220, and I really like the look of the V tailpiece (reminds me of classic cars).

    I ended up selling both, however, because I'm addicted to the 5420T. I now own three of them in different colors. I found that I always picked up the 5420T over the solidbodies. The sound and the vibs of the hollowbody just suits me better. :)
     
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  5. mschafft

    mschafft Synchromatic

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    The 5420T is quite the contender indeed!
     
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  6. HypotenusLuvTriangle

    HypotenusLuvTriangle Country Gent

    Oct 27, 2010
    Whittier, Ca
    I'm a big fan of my G5232T. I think double jets are pretty boss in general. better fret access due to the dual cutaway.
     
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  7. Back in Black

    Back in Black Synchromatic

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    Like ice cream...they're all good!

    Personally, I'd tend to stay away from the models that have the B5 style vibrato positioned close to the static bridge.

    The string break angle is sharp, and with the static bridge...''may'' cause drag and detuning issues when the Bigsby is activated.

    Just me...

    BIB.
     
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  8. mschafft

    mschafft Synchromatic

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    Jan 19, 2017
    Switzerland
    Thanks for the advice, I think so too.
     
  9. Stefan87

    Stefan87 Country Gent

    May 20, 2019
    Brisbane, Australia
    I have a 5230T and honestly love it, you will get a slightly different tone over your G5420 due to different construction but not sure if it would be different enough for you, people actually say they prefer the blacktops in jets over the hollowbodies but I haven't played a hollowbody with BT FT so I can't comment.
    I really do want to try a G5220 as they get a lot of love here but haven't as of yet, i don't think you could go wrong either way but seeing as you have BT FT and a bigsby on your G5420T and want something different I'd go the G5220.
    Ultimately go try both and see what you think, looking forward to the NGD thread :).
     
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  10. YaDaddy

    YaDaddy Gretschie

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    Mar 16, 2020
    Marietta, GA
    I luvz me some 5220!

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  11. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    I personally would favor the regular blacktop, thumbnail markers and the hard tail so I could install a B3 Bigsby. Choose your color.
     
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  12. capnhiho

    capnhiho Synchromatic

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    @Henry : I have two of your three prerequisites covered with my Joan as seen above. I addressed the break angle issues with a Bricks BiggsFix. Also, I didn’t like the gaps between the flat Bigsby and the curved guitar top, so I developed a technique to form fit the Bigsby base with the top using JB Weld epoxy filler. And no, the Bigsby isn’t permanently epoxied to the guitar. This really improved sustain!
    I’ll post the process (with photos) if enough folks are interested.
     
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  13. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    You confuse me everytime you refer to a "Jet".
    Best if you call them by their correct names because the 52 series "Electromatic Jet" models are very different to the 61 series "Jet" guitars. The main difference is the Electro Jets are much less chambered.

    Then add on different pups, different bigsby. different electrics, tuners, fretboard materials, pinned v floating bridges and mud switches v tone dials. Adds up to 2 different models that sound, feel and play differently :D

    And by the look of the Streamliner "Junior Jets" they have very little in common with a 61 series "Jet" other than part of a name :)
     
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  14. dmunson

    dmunson Gretschie

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    Dec 19, 2015
    Charlotte, NC
    Find an older 5230 (2016 or so) with the Blacktop Filtertrons, and you may have what you are looking for. Mine has been a constant surprise. And in a good way.
     
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  15. Gretschmen65

    Gretschmen65 Country Gent

    May 20, 2016
    QLD Australia
    Not the same Broadtrons.
    The Electomatic line uses Blacktop Broadtrons - superior to the Streamliner series.
     
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  16. michelb

    michelb Synchromatic

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    I'd love to own a single cut jet to put some T-armonds in :D for that aggressive oldschool single coil sound.

    Played a gig with a guy once that broke a string on his Eddie Cochran model, went for his back up 6120 with dynasonics. What an amazing sound :eek:
    Had to dial down the amp a bit tho. But fell in love with the old school single coil sound right then and there.
     
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  17. Which model Jet ?
    Well that becomes easier sorta since lefty single cut "exist"
    G5230LH could be within budget, very reasonable
    G6228LH would be nice - but I don't buy lotto tickets, so would NOT be affordable and would anyway be "above my grade" in ability as well.
     
  18. stiv

    stiv Country Gent

    Sep 12, 2014
    Florence, Italy
    Well, if you want Dynasonics in a Jet it has to be a Pro Line, so a different budget would be involved.
    You could always buy an Electromatic and fit in a T-Armond in a filter case like TV Jones have, but I don't know if there's tonal differences compared to regular shaped Dyna type pickups that couldn't be installed in a Electromatic because of the low body/top angle.
     
  19. Londoner

    Londoner Gretschie

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    Dec 18, 2020
    UK
    Can anyone explain why a left handed G5230 costs roughly the same as a right handed, yet doesn't come with a Bigsby as the R/H one does?
    Yes, I understand tooling costs, hence the small price difference between LH/RH 5220s.
    It's about the same difference with the 5230s, but NO BIGSBY!
     
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  20. Armygirl

    Armygirl Country Gent

    Mar 14, 2014
    Edinburgh
    I do love a Jet. I have an Fairlane Blue with a v stoptail and it is amazing. My first Gretsch was a Jet Club, cheap as chips and classy a anything. Very cool for a beginner. I do want a Duo Jet at some point but at the moment. My Electro is just a stunner. I could do so much worse than that....
     
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