Is the Bigsby a Tremolo or Vibrato?

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  1. Wjensen

    Wjensen Gretschie

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    Synchro, thanks for the info. I will check out the bio.
     
  2. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    10,000 comedians out of work and we get this.

    On other stringed instruments, like violin or cello, a rapid movement of the finger on a string is called vibrato. It's a pitch change, as is a Bigsby or Floyd. Tremolo is a variable volume, like you'd find in most amps. A Leslie is considered a tremulant, but it changes the pitch as well as the volume.
     
  3. Scott Fraser

    Scott Fraser Country Gent

    Jan 14, 2012
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    Pitch, volume, and also phase. But what it really does is to change the location of the sound source in space.
     
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  4. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    Yes, and nothing else sounds like it. Trouble is that it's a nightmare to mike properly.
     
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  5. slickfaster

    slickfaster Synchromatic

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    Whammy Bar... Mama!
     
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  6. Gregor

    Gregor Synchromatic

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    Interesting!
     
  7. Gregor

    Gregor Synchromatic

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    Yep!
     
  8. Gregor

    Gregor Synchromatic

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    Whew, my head's aching reading this but thanks for sharing.
     
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  9. Gregor

    Gregor Synchromatic

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    I'm still laughing!!!:D:D:D
     
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  10. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Friend of Fred

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    Thank you, Christian Doppler.
    Without you, we'd probably call it the "pitchy-bendy-swirly-loud-not-so-loud effect."
     
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  11. Scott Fraser

    Scott Fraser Country Gent

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    Mandolin!
     
  12. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    The Warbleator!
     
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  13. new6659

    new6659 Country Gent

    To answer the question - a vibrato.
     
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  14. Gregor

    Gregor Synchromatic

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    Thank you.
     
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  15. GAMBLER1234

    GAMBLER1234 Gretschie

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    For those of us who are technically challenged perhaps a picture will help. The one on the left has a tremolo the one on the right has a vibrato. :)

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Country Gent

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    Why don't we put the whole thing to rest and just call it a tremolato? Or maybe vibrolo.
     
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  17. lathoto

    lathoto Gretschie

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    Vibrato.

    Try doing it with your hands and your Bigsby at the same time (but don't chew gum).

    Now a Leslie is something completely different. You'd have to factor in air temperature, barometric pressure, room size, etc. etc.
     
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  18. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
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    Personally I can not imagine a guy like Leo Fender getting the terminology wrong. He may not have been a professional musician but I think he received formal training as an accountant.
    He and Doc Kauffman were business associates for a few years under the K&F brand before Kauffman left and Leo renamed the company after himself.
    So Leo must have been well aware of the Kauffman Vibrola.
    My theory is he didn’t want to create any confusion or possible association with another product and quite deliberately took some liberty in renaming his invention, in the absence of ruthlessly scrutinising guitar forums.
     
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  19. montereyjack66

    montereyjack66 Country Gent

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    Just proves my theory. It's all political. Based on fake Whang Bars. Our civilization is collapsing.
     
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  20. G5422T

    G5422T Country Gent

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    Call them what you want.

    Beautiful looking, and nothing sounds like it.

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    A few different flavors too.

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