Is anyone else done buying guitars?

Discussion in 'Fred's Barcalounge' started by rebuhrman, May 28, 2021.

  1. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
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    One of the best Strats I ever owned, or played, was a MIM Tex=Mex I bought new for $340.

    CNC has changed things drastically. The Squier Classic Vibe that I just bought from Winfield Thomas probably has fewer flaws than the originals, which came out of Fullerton. The fretwork is nearly perfect and the neck profile is perfect. I’m certain that automation plays a big role in that. They must cut corners somewhere in order to get these Classic Vibes out the door so cheaply, but I’m not able to find anything wrong.
  2. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Country Gent

    It's not the destination, it's the journey.

    And if you hadn't tried these other guitars, you would miss them.
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  3. Marko60

    Marko60 Gretschie

    Mar 26, 2021
    Yorkshire, England
    Only buy a Japanese Tokai LP, don't bother with the chinese or Korean ones. I don't think there are many Tokai's in the US, as Gibson's etc are cheaper there. But over here in Europe they are very respected. I've even seen video's of Billy Gibbons playing a Tokai. You would not be disappointed with a Good Japanese one, early 80's models are now very desirable.
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  4. Alanqa

    Alanqa Gretschie

    Aug 22, 2019
    Lancashire UK
    I'm currently done buying guitars. I have nearly all bases covered.
    I'd like to sell a few to make some space but everything I have is useful and playable OR worthless second hand.

    My chief guitars are:

    Gretsch White Falcon G6139t cbdc this is my "Gretsch sound" tone monster.

    PRS se standard 24 Multi Foil this is my go to lead guitar for epic solos.

    DeArmond M75t in Champagne for all my single coil clean vintage tones.

    Gretsch G5239t 3 pickup silver jet highly modified does anything gigging guitar. I'm thinking of putting a piezo bridge in to make it the ultimate go to Jack of all trades.

    I also have a load of acoustics and specialist things like electric 12 string, lap steel, various basses.

    So other than an acoustic 12 string and a resonator guitar (both of which I would only play a couple of times a month) there is sadly, nothing I actually need.
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  5. Marko60

    Marko60 Gretschie

    Mar 26, 2021
    Yorkshire, England
    I once had an SE single cut, for the money I paid it was excellent and had a beautiful neck profile.
  6. Jimmythefish

    Jimmythefish Electromatic

    Jun 1, 2021
    Victoria BC
    More or less yes. I have a D28, a midrange Telecaster, and a G5622T. In the future I could see me getting a custom shop Tele and a Silver Falcon to replace the latter two but I don’t need more guitars. I have my bases covered.
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  7. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    I'm looking too. The keys on our electric piano are getting a bit floppy, and my son actually plays piano for fun now:). I'm thinking of something a but fancier with weird sounds etc but haven't looked in earnest yet. As there are few summer camps for kids, one summer project I will give him is to program a song in GarageBand.. Kid has a good ear and likes to play movie and TV show songs on memory. He did a great version if the Gargoyles show theme song.
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  8. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    That is awesome. I went looking for a piano teacher in our village and apparently the last of his/her species moved out to the city a decade ago.
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  9. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Our lessons used to be at a music school about 2 minutes away, but we've been zooming lessons for the last 14 months. If you're willing to do that and have a decent internet, you've got a whole globe of teachers. I admit, I do some amount of tutoring in between weekly lessons but it sounds like you could help as well.
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    THE BALD REVEREND Electromatic

    Jul 14, 2020
    Sure you had a wise ( and money-saving ) approach : 3 good axes covering what you need , sonds perfect !
    Only thing i do not agree with is you bought your last guitar : i think our last guitar is ALWAYS the one yet to come :) . Seems as when someone wants to quit smoking : TOMORROW i'll give up ! I'm speaking by experience :) . Let's Gretsch and all the best from Italy !!
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  11. AZBrahma

    AZBrahma Gretschie

    Dec 18, 2020
    At this point I think the only truly meaningful differences are in the quality of the hardware and electronics. Even so, most of what comes on this class of guitar is perfectly serviceable stuff. As long as the lumber is properly conditioned, sawed, and joined, it's all good. Used to be you had to buy an expensive guitar to get one that wasn't fundamentally flawed in some way, but those days are past us by....what, 25 years now? Then there are guys who would rather buy an inexpensive guitar and mod/upgrade over time anyway, it's part of the fun for them. Though Fender was always good with the MIM stuff, I credit Schecter for dramatically raising the bar on import quality and expectations, and eventually forcing everyone else to compete at that level. We all won because of it.
  12. blueruins

    blueruins Country Gent

    May 28, 2013
    Savannah, GA
    There really is so much emotion and nostalgia tied up in a lot of us players opinions about guitars. I’ve made a real effort to try and balance the mythology with the reality in the last few years.
    I think about the fact that the string really only touches the guitar on the bridge, frets and the nut so those appear to be the most influential components of guitar tone. Next of course would be the pickup which is the interpreter of the sound. I’m not one of those that believes that the wood has no effect on the tone I think it has a considerable effect. However, I think the other factors above are more important.
    I definitely have my brand loyalty’s and aesthetic considerations that I find important. But I have gone through enough guitars now to realize that of course the gear doesn’t make the player, and a lot of what I was chasing may have relevance to other players but it doesn’t for me.
    I love guitar like nothing else and I don’t think I’ll ever be done purchasing guitars or at least admiring them.I think I’d like to keep my final count under 15 just because beyond that I’m not sure of the practicality of keeping all those instruments in shape and actually using them.
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  13. Bertotti

    Bertotti Friend of Fred

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    The funny thing is the only American-made guitar I have ever owned is my Martin 000-18 GE an incredible guitar. I thought I would save for a US Strat but my MIM and CIJ are perfectly fine.
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2021
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  14. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
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    It’s certainly a lot easier to find something playable than it used to be.

    On my Tex-Mex Strat, the pickups were of lower quality than the MIA pickups, but they sounded great. 26 years later, to the best of my knowledge, they are working perfectly.

    That’s a good point. This is a very emotional issue. The rationale for various purchases can be arbitrary, or possibly associated with reasons which are rooted in strongly held beliefs.

    For example, as long as I’ve been playing, I’ve been hearing that they don’t make guitars the way that they used to. What I’ve found is that no matter how good of a guitar someone had, there were people that would explain that it was trash compared to something made in the good old days. At one point, I had a Gibson Johnny Smith, the guitar that was second only to the Citation, yet there were people lined up to tell me that it was garbage.

    Notably, the people telling me this tended not to be owners of high-end guitars. I was in my early 20s at the time, and it never occurred to me that the people criticizing my guitar didn’t actually own one of these “better” guitars, made in the good old days (when everything was wonderful and even student instruments were crafted by magic elves and made out of solid wood from enchanted forests).

    They don’t make them like they used to, but I’m not sure that is such a bad thing. I will readily admit that there were some wonderful pieces of wood available in the past and some of those lovely wood grains may be hard to duplicate, these days. But I’ve seen some great wood on newer guitars, as well. The Spruce on my Guild is not particularly tight-grained, but the grain is very even and the guitar sounds great. Some of the best archtops I’ve ever played were made relatively recently, including a Gibson LeGrande and a Westerly-built Guild Artist Award.

    I remember guitar shopping, in the ‘70s, and one would play a lot of guitars before finding one that was truly good. I played quite a number of ES-335s, back in the day, and the truly good examples were in the minority. Contrast this with the expectations we would have for even a low-end archtop or thin-bodied guitar in our day. I’ve bought several archtops sight-unseen and been more than satisfied with the instrument I received. I wouldn’t have dreamed of doing this back in the ‘70s.

    But guitar buying can be an emotion-filled experience and I suspect that many buying decisions are based upon emotional elements which are difficult to quantify. Ultimately, people buy what they feel like buying, and that’s as true for me as it is for anyone.
  15. blueruins

    blueruins Country Gent

    May 28, 2013
    Savannah, GA
    I’m old enough to remember the 70’s when the guitar gospel was that the heavier the instrument the better. Everyone seemed to be chasing maximum sustain and it was brass hardware and a 13 lb. log that would get you there.

    Then the eighties happened and it was all thin necks, whammy bars, and basswood.

    Things seem to be shifting right now in guitar land but for decades it’s been about baseball necks, lightweight bodies and thin finishes. Anything less is hardly worth playing.

    I have my preferences but at this point I’m pretty sure that most of what I think I know is mostly fantasy;)
  16. rockinstephen

    rockinstephen Electromatic

    I think that most of us are never really done. Sooner or later, something will come along that we just have to have. It may mean getting rid of something first, but that NGD is always special...
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  17. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    The last guitar I bought is never the last guitar I buy. :D
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  18. Rik Marelli

    Rik Marelli Electromatic

    May 20, 2021
    How many guitars is enough??
    Obviously just one more
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  19. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
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    Remember the '79 Strat? You had to be young, optimistic and have a good back to wear one of those for a four hour gig. :)
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  20. multom

    multom Newbie

    Mar 13, 2015
    Al twee jaar vind ik dat ik mijn laatste gitaar heb gekocht, heb er nu 70. Van alles wat, veel Gretsch, Gibson en Fender.
    Vorige week de laatste gekocht en is dat wel de laatste, maar misschien ik ben snel verliefd.

    Heart from Holland.
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