I want a new Tube amp

Franz Zlabinger

Electromatic
Jan 26, 2022
61
Ireland
Hi Gretsch friends

With g5622t I use a Blackstar ht20r- MK2, nice sounding amp if it works with no trouble. My unit seems to bold on a Monday 🥴 and is not reliable. So I think about to replace it. I like to play Blues, Blues rock and so on but no high gain stuff. Want a amp between 10 and 20 watt. What's you guys opinion about, what would you recommend??
Regards
Franz
 

hcsterg

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Feb 13, 2012
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@Franz Zlabinger,

Fender Princeton Reverb - Silverface, as far as possible, over the RI.

Not cheap, probably in need of some servicing, but once done : reliable, dependable, undestructible, fully repairable and offering an unrivalled sound.
Takes ideally any pedal of any kind, truly versatile amplifier.
Built for a lifetime, it's a true investiment.

I would not part with mine, for sure ! :cool::cool::cool:

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But it's me, OK ? 😁;)

A+!
 
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Pine Apple Slim

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Dec 14, 2011
1,998
North Alabama
Honestly, as much as I love tube amps, if you don’t have a good tech in your pocket I wouldn’t bother, esp an old one. I just had my old 71‘ Bassman head in for a tune up after about 5 yrs ago when it was gone thru and recapped. He resoldered some joints, tightened up the tube sockets, checked the bias, and generally went thru the whole thing. Cost me$90 in labor, and he’s an old guy in a small town who works cheap by todays big city prices.Keeping a vintage tube amp running requires a financial commitment and a good affordable and trustworthy technician at your disposal. With todays moldeling or even solid state analog technology you’d probably be better off with something like a Quilter, solid state Orange, or one of the great multi processors that are now available.
 

Emergence

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May 25, 2022
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I don’t know that I’ve changed my mind about tube amps. I love mine, a Mesa Boogie Express 5:25, but it’s 12 or 15 years old now. And it’s MIA. I think that if I had to buy an amp today, I’d maybe go for a Tone Master Deluxe. I like the power scaling and the weight reduction. I’m not a fan of MIC but I don’t think anything like it is MIA.
 

Neal

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Oct 12, 2013
127
Virginia
@Franz Zlabinger,

Fender Princeton Reverb - Silverface, as far as possible, over the RI.

Not cheap, probably in need of some servicing, but once done : reliable, dependable, undestructible, fully repairable and offering an unrivalled sound.
Takes ideally any pedal of any kind, truly versatile amplifier.
Built for a lifetime, it's a true investiment.

I would not part with mine, for sure ! :cool::cool::cool:

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But it's me, OK ? 😁;)

A+!
This, exactly. If you are looking for a life-time amp, you can’t do much better in that wattage range than a Silverface Princeton Reverb. Mine has been through so many trials and tribulations that it has lost all of its tolex. But it just keeps working and sounding great.
 

Franz Zlabinger

Electromatic
Jan 26, 2022
61
Ireland
Honestly, as much as I love tube amps, if you don’t have a good tech in your pocket I wouldn’t bother, esp an old one. I just had my old 71‘ Bassman head in for a tune up after about 5 yrs ago when it was gone thru and recapped. He resoldered some joints, tightened up the tube sockets, checked the bias, and generally went thru the whole thing. Cost me$90 in labor, and he’s an old guy in a small town who works cheap by todays big city prices.Keeping a vintage tube amp running requires a financial commitment and a good affordable and trustworthy technician at your disposal. With todays moldeling or even solid state analog technology you’d probably be better off with something like a Quilter, solid state Orange, or one of the great multi processors that are now available.
You are right, but I absolut dislike solid state amps, don't like how they sound. Have a modeler unit, nux mg30 but only because it's a cheap why to learn about pedals. For the future I want to go as analog as possible.
 

thunder58

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Dec 23, 2010
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Tappan N.Y.
With g5622t I use a Blackstar ht20r- MK2, nice sounding amp if it works with no trouble. My unit seems to bold on a Monday 🥴 and is not reliable
I'm surprised to hear that the BlackStar is not reliable . When I saw the title of this thread , BlackStar came to mind
 

Franz Zlabinger

Electromatic
Jan 26, 2022
61
Ireland
I'm surprised to hear that the BlackStar is not reliable . When I saw the title of this thread , BlackStar came to mind
The support just tries to figure out what is the issue. If turns out that only the tubes are faulty, then happy days. New tubes , bias , done. But there is the possibility to be a fault on the board , this would be a real issue at this amp. That's what I mean if I say as analog as possible, things are just easier to fix.
 

rake_ether

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Aug 24, 2019
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Athens, GA USA
Honestly, as much as I love tube amps, if you don’t have a good tech in your pocket I wouldn’t bother, esp an old one. I just had my old 71‘ Bassman head in for a tune up after about 5 yrs ago when it was gone thru and recapped. He resoldered some joints, tightened up the tube sockets, checked the bias, and generally went thru the whole thing. Cost me$90 in labor, and he’s an old guy in a small town who works cheap by todays big city prices.Keeping a vintage tube amp running requires a financial commitment and a good affordable and trustworthy technician at your disposal. With todays moldeling or even solid state analog technology you’d probably be better off with something like a Quilter, solid state Orange, or one of the great multi processors that are now available.
I have to reluctantly agree. I currently own 4 amps, 2 tube and 2 solid state. While I love my tube amps (one is a very fine Winfield) I worry about future repairs as my town only has one tech and the well regarded one down the road in Atlanta has closed shop indefinitely.
 

Trash Kidd

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Dec 14, 2015
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Another vote for the Fender Blues Junior here.
Crystal clean & also breaks up nicely & won’t break the bank!
I gigged mine for years before reluctantly selling it to raise some funds that were needed at the time.
 

Pine Apple Slim

Country Gent
Dec 14, 2011
1,998
North Alabama
You are right, but I absolut dislike solid state amps, don't like how they sound. Have a modeler unit, nux mg30 but only because it's a cheap why to learn about pedals. For the future I want to go as analog as possible.
Understand. I own
Carr Rambler, custom made amp kinda Deluxe Reverb "ish", but 6L6s instead of 6V6s, so a little more headroom on tap.. 1-12", 15 or 30w, world class tremolo and reverb.
Crate USA Vintage Club 2110R, from the early 90s, little 20w EL84 class A single channel 1-10" combo.
late 70s Peavey Artist 240. 110w, 1-12", reverb tank, 6L6s. What can I say, its a tank, blow the doors off any honky tonk.
71' Silverface Bassman 50w head. Home made 1-15" cab w/ Weber California 15". Big clean Fender tonz.
The advantage of older tube amps-classic sound and FEEL, can last several lifetimes if maintained, esp if old style thru hole large component construction . But as I mentioned maintaining them is the downside.
I agree with the Fender folks. Look for a decent Princeton or Deluxe Reverb and be done with it. Blues Jrs are fine too just a different character(EL84s) and less expensive.
Or a Vox or Marshall if thats your preference, that might be easier and cheaper on your side of the pond, IDK.
I would love to try out an AC15 w/Alnico Blue or that little Marshall Silver Jubilee combo. Or that little 20w Plexi head and a couple of Greenbacks would be pretty sweet too.
 
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hcsterg

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Feb 13, 2012
7,455
France
What you think guys about Supro Amulet?
Watched some videos and fall more and more in love.

What I can say about SUPRO RI is that they have a sound of they own - nothing to do with a classic Fender and it's great polyvalency, it's another world...

In my local music shop, I tested the Royal , the Saturn... Unconvincing : just bass, no treble. Not for me. Too bad : they are cool looking... And then my pal Frankie, the boss of my local music shop called me about a little 1605R "Reverb 1964" (RI) model he entered. I tested it and yes, this one sounded good, not Fender at all, OK ? But not muddy-bassy like its bigger brothers, just dirty-Soul-Funk. It's now at home, no regrets ! But it's only a 5-watters - a loud one though :

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It was a brand new 2nd hand, still under warranty, that the original owner traded in for a quite battered... Silverface Fender Deluxe Reverb !

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Moreover, it is a well built amp - by modern standards - I mean, not like a Marshall JVM/DSL or Peavey Classic XX :

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That said, I never saw a SUPRO Amulet yet, but it seems an interesting amp, as is also the Supro Blues and Delta King that I could hear played by customers in my local music shop.

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A+!
 


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