I feel ashamed to confess: I`ve been scammed the second time within a year

Discussion in 'Fred's Barcalounge' started by loudnlousy, May 6, 2021.

  1. Bob Perrone

    Bob Perrone Gretschie

    Mar 7, 2017
    allentown, pa
    "someone at Facebook must have OK'd that ad "....nope...they don't okay anything. Same with Google. Links that show up in search results are paid for if you want to be in the top ten. They don't check the sites or if the sites listed are serving up computer infections instead of information or products. The dollar rules so buyer and web user beware.
    I am an IT Administrator and it is very dangerous out there - the wild west - and EBay and the rest don't give a damn.
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  2. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Gretschified

    Oct 18, 2015
    I am very sorry to hear this. It is so bad taking advantage of the friendlyness of elder people. I am constantly warning my mum not to be too trustful towards strangers. (She had windows and doors done on her house last year and paid at least twice the price that would be fair.)
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  3. Archtops

    Archtops Synchromatic

    Mar 4, 2021
    So sorry for the ripoffs. I’ve had a couple of experiences where PayPal has had my back with full and immediate refunds. As long as the documentation is in order. Reverb support also has responded very well on recalcitrant refunds.
    BTW, it is not something to be ashamed of when you have a trusting nature. Best of luck and thAnk you for helping us all not to make the same mistake.
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  4. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Gretschified

    Oct 18, 2015
    One thing made the last shipment even more complicated: DHL made me believe that my parcel was under way for weeks and weeks. The shipping tracking is longer than a roll of toilet paper! So I was never sure that I got scammed.
    All the operators and DHL agents there told me different things (corona etc.)until a more practical minded person showed me a picture of my actual shipment: It was a letter-sized envelope!
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  5. Stefan87

    Stefan87 Country Gent

    May 20, 2019
    Brisbane, Australia
    That sucks to hear and really sorry you had to go through this.
    Those great deals or things you really want sometimes cloud judgement on doing things you normally wouldn't or stop you from going about things the way you know you should.
    It will all come back around and something awesome will come your way in the future no doubt.
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  6. Viking Power

    Viking Power Synchromatic

    Jun 11, 2018
    Mountlake Terrace, WA
    That's really shitty to hear man. I don't have any wise words or anything just my empathy.
    Best of luck in your future deals. Maybe karma will work out and you'll get a screaming deal on a nice guitar down the road.
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  7. BrianW

    BrianW Country Gent

    Oct 21, 2014
    Vancouver Island
    That sounds like a full-time scam artist... send an envelope knowing it will show up in tracking just to make you think it's what you bought. Keeps you quiet long enough for the inevitable "issue" to die; and to (not) sell more items for a longer period before folding up and resurfacing as somebody else.
    Where else but on the 'net could one be completely invisible and untraceable and still be exposed to millions of potential "customers"?

    I guess the moral is only buy online with a credit card (via paypal or?) and never use your own money. At least the bank would have a vested interest if the purchase was a rip-off and you could stop the payment in time.

    I am very grateful to have the world marketplace available for some of the things I get involved with (I wouldn't be involved without access to parts from all over) and am more grateful that so far haven't had a purchase go sour. I did have my credit card details stolen from a suppliers database a few years ago, to the tune of about $700, but caught the unauthorized purchases in time. The bank refunded all the phoney purchases, thankfully. The supplier was very nonchalant when contacted and told me "yeah, we have been getting a lot of complaints.." and that was it. Lost my business for that attitude!

    Sorry about the rambling on here.
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  8. Sabato

    Sabato Country Gent

    Mar 22, 2019
    Here either .
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  9. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    Caveat Emptor!
    Trust no one.
    Sorry to hear this. All these things do is destroy one's trust. At least you know Karma will get them in the end, eventually. Hopefully sooner than later.
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  10. nickurso

    nickurso Gretschified

    Dec 24, 2012
    New Orleans la.
    Only use paypal
  11. These stories just irk me to the point of becoming a hermit. I guess there will always be those that take advantage of others. One hopes that karma exists. I’m sorry to hear this. Hope something good comes your way soon.
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  12. MikeSchindler

    MikeSchindler Synchromatic

    Feb 3, 2014
    Got rid of PayPal and eBay after someone hacked my PayPal and tried to withdraw money. Thankful I caught it in time. I don’t buy from Reverb or any of those sites. If I buy it will be from a brick and mortar well known and trusted music store.
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  13. MotorCentaur

    MotorCentaur Synchromatic

    May 11, 2016
    Oh man, that bites! Really sorry to hear. I hate scammers and thieves. And I've experienced the bad end of deals before. On the whole pretty lucky on music gear though.

    Just this week my buddy told me that the person that was supposedly doing the body work/painting his '55 Chevy truck, had ripped him off, he took my buddy's $16K that he had fronted him, and stolen/sold the body and rear end of the truck, and ditched off to New York (from Seattle). All my buddy's got left is a chassis, with I'm guessing the stock engine, in storage unit somewhere. He's basically got to start from scratch, and almost no chance of meaningful recovery. Damn, some people can just be absolutely awful. It's not like my friend is just rolling in cash you know, this is a major setback.

    Anyway back to your dilemma, I hope you can find something at a fair price that makes up for your misfortune.

    We have to be careful in our dealings among the vipers. There's no advantage of going around the ebay/reverb system besides a sales tax (which in Washington is a painful 10.1%). Paypal protects you, and the ebay/reverb fee is on the seller, they know that, and should figure that into their selling price.

    Good Luck in your future transactions.
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  14. Ricochet

    Ricochet Senior Gretsch-Talker

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    Please, don’t ever feel embarrassed about trusting people.
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  15. stiv

    stiv Country Gent

    Sep 12, 2014
    Firenze, Italy
    I'm sorry mate, but that's not your fault if there's people like that out there.
    To be honest, I''m always scared about being scammed every time I press the "send the money" button on every transaction I do online. Can't help but feeling that way.
    That's the reason why I rarely buy expensive stuff trough the net. I prefer to spend some more for a road trip, which is also fun. To me, 1000 euros are a huge (I say way too huge) amount of money to spend on something that I use for 10% of my time like a guitar... so it's cash and collect first. Of course this would deny me a lot of overseas deals but if that's the price to pay to feel better... that's ok. I already have more instruments than I effectively need.
    But these things happen to everyone, believe me.
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  16. Sabato

    Sabato Country Gent

    Mar 22, 2019
    Today I read about "smishing", phishing via sms text, never heard of it but why not I guess. Person gets a text purporting to be from their bank, an alert about a suspicious charge on their credit card, call this number. Calls, (here's where it goes completely off the rails) is asked for and enters credit card number AND social security number (really?). Then the big "oops" moment, too late.
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  17. Back in Black

    Back in Black Country Gent

    Jun 22, 2020
    Ontario Canada

    I'm sure you feel bad enough already...but...''E-Bay''...should have been your first clue, especially if there is no purchase option in place to protect yourself.

    There is absolutely nothing that you need bad enough, that you need to buy it from E-Bay, and certainly not through a ''unprotected'' purchase transaction.

    Right now, with the pandemic keeping us close to social media, there are more scammers/fraud artists than ever preying on our buying power.

    I follow the ''trust no one'' policy, and deal only with reputable sellers, and only through PAYPAL.

    Anything else, ends up in the unpleasant experience, you are currently working your way through.

    Best of luck,

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  18. Bobstephens

    Bobstephens Electromatic

    Feb 14, 2021
    Tehachapi, California
  19. Bobstephens

    Bobstephens Electromatic

    Feb 14, 2021
    Tehachapi, California
    The buyer needs to be careful even when using Reverb. I bought a Fender strat on the Reverb platform advertised as an American Stratocaster. I was new to electric guitars. Eventually I became concerned about the sound of the guitar and took it to a local luthier. When he opened the pickguard, the pots and pickups were cheap Chinese parts. I contacted Fender, and the serial # was bogus, the entire guitar was fake. The music store that sold me the guitar, Adirondack Guitars in New York, a regular Reverb seller that usually has lots of listings on the site refused to do anything, and were quite nasty in their communications with me. Reverb was sympathetic, but was unable or unwilling to put much pressure on the seller to resolve the problem.
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  20. David_GS

    David_GS Electromatic

    Oct 16, 2020
    That sucks, sorry to hear this happened.
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