I don’t understand the theory behind this guitar

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  1. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck I Bleed Orange

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    In this month's Vintage Guitar magazine, there’s a blurb about the Altered States guitar, which features mahogany on the upper bout and swamp ash on the lower about, with the bridge and pick ups also split to match each side. I know there are those who would argue that tonewoods make a difference in a solid body guitar, I don’t think anyone can argue that gluing two separate species of wood together with divided hardware would make any tonal difference. Seems like a gimmick, or at best a solution in search of a problem. What do you think?

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    Especially for over $4000! (Now I'm thinking gimmick, although they are "master builders.")

    http://www.alteredstatesguitar.com/guitarcollection/

    Doesn't sound or look bad, but I doubt much is due to its unique construction.

     
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  2. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Gimmick ?? ......
    remember these ????

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  3. GOOBALL JEFF

    GOOBALL JEFF Synchromatic

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    I think Masonite sounds amazing
     
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  4. JC higgy

    JC higgy Gretschified

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    No matter how it sounds ,it doesn't look like a $4,000 guitar to me.
     
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  5. MrWookiee

    MrWookiee Synchromatic

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    I'm with you, @drmilktruck. Not that there's anything wrong with gimmicks.

    Wasn't there a guy some years ago who made a solid body guitar out of a slab of Lexan? I seem to recall that it proved whatever it was that he was trying to prove about tone, but weighed 2 or 3x more than a wooden guitar.
     
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  6. juks

    juks Synchromatic

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  7. Scott Fraser

    Scott Fraser Country Gent

    Jan 14, 2012
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    Dan Armstrong made these for a while. They also had swappable pickups which could be slid out & replaced with different flavors. Keith Richards played one on the Stones 'Get Yer Ya Yas Out' tour. They didn't exactly start a revolution in guitar building.
    As to the other, yeah, gimmick.
     
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  8. toddfan

    toddfan Synchromatic

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    I like both halves of that guitar...I just don't like them as a whole.
     
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    toddfan Synchromatic

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  10. Hammerhands

    Hammerhands Country Gent

    Aug 26, 2011
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    Everybody’s always complaining that things are too different or not unique enough. It’s evolution in action, just try ****.

    I saw one of those Zoot Suit SGs hanging on Ringo’s wall, now I want one.
     
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  11. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

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    IMO, a gimmick.
     
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  12. juks

    juks Synchromatic

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    Georgia Sattelites guitarist used that too. The originals seem to be selling well in 4 digits but somebody has made cheapo copies too I've seen in GC couple times.
     
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  13. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    Worked well for the original Danelectros.

    The Lexan Dan Armstrong guitars were also used by Joe Walsh. There were only three available pickups. There was a bass as well. The James Gang played them in the movie "Zachariah". Jeff "Skunk" Baxter also plays a Lexan Strat as seen in "Blues Bros. 2000" and in other videos. Those have got to weigh a ton.

    This guitar is just another in a long line of gimmicks. Look thru any old Guitar Player mags and you'll see that 90% of the ads are for ideas that didn't pan out over the long run.
     
  14. speedicut

    speedicut Friend of Fred

    Jun 5, 2012
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    Yeah, too gimmicky...
     
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  15. mr coffee

    mr coffee Country Gent

    Oct 7, 2009
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    Also Fu Manchu, both the guitars and basses.

    -m
     
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  16. MrWookiee

    MrWookiee Synchromatic

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    Wow, haven't seen Blues Brothers 2k in a while. Doesn't hold a candle to the original but sitting through it is worth seeing some of the greats together at the end.
     
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  17. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

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    Proof once again that just because you can, doesn't mean you should......:eek::eek::eek:
     
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  18. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    Everyone needs to see the extended version of the first Blues Brothers. There's fifteen or twenty minutes more that actually explain a few things. Well worth it. The 2000 version does have some great music in it as well.
     
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  19. LivingMyDream

    LivingMyDream Friend of Fred

    ^^Yep, this.
     
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  20. Archtops

    Archtops Synchromatic

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    Looks like they were smokin something and realized the ran out of tone wood.:D
     
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