How fake is my Setzer ?

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by Pitibecks, Dec 5, 2021.

  1. wabash slim

    wabash slim I Bleed Orange

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    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    Well, I do espouse the adage, "Trust no one."
     
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  2. michelb

    michelb Synchromatic

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    Mar 27, 2020
    Belgium
    Nough said I'm afraid.

    First things I notice are:
    • F-holes
    • Bigsby
    • Thumbnail inlays
    • Controls position
    • Pups + rings
    • Pickguard
    • Headstock
    • Body dimensions seem off as well
    It's a pity that music stores and auctions don't seem to be able to recognise a Gretsch. This is not the first case and I'm afraid you prob won't be the last
     
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  3. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Country Gent

    It's obviously what @Pitibecks has decided to do.

    For the time being, that only proves that nobody from that auction house care about guitar, they only care about the underlying money.
     
  4. juks

    juks Country Gent

    Nov 26, 2020
    Fremont, California
    You need to change "I bleed orange" to "trust no one" :)
     
  5. wabash slim

    wabash slim I Bleed Orange

    Age:
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    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    If you bleed orange, you really need to see a doctor.
     
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  6. BuddyHollywood

    BuddyHollywood Gretschie

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    Sep 11, 2009
    Venice, CA
    My question isn't "is it fake" but "are they for real?"

    Admittedly I've been playing, admiring and studying Gretsch guitars for over a decade now. When I saw your pictures I couldn't believe how much of a Gretsch this guitar isn't. Every single detail is a giveaway when I looked at all of your pictures from the inside out. Still, if you like the guitar for what it is, which is definitely without a doubt not a Gretsch guitar, then it may be worth whatever you think it may be worth plus the price of the Grover tuners on it. If you find joy in playing it then you should keep playing it but you should attempt to get most of your money back if you paid anything more than a few hundred for it.
     
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  7. juks

    juks Country Gent

    Nov 26, 2020
    Fremont, California
    You mean I should trust a doctor? :)
     
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  8. wabash slim

    wabash slim I Bleed Orange

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    72
    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    Safer than a politician.
     
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  9. juks

    juks Country Gent

    Nov 26, 2020
    Fremont, California
    I agree. Politician and trust do not exist together.
     
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  10. Ricochet

    Ricochet Senior Gretsch-Talker

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    If he had posted the link we would have established the trustworthiness of said auction house in a couple of minutes...

    As it is we’ve been speculating since last sunday, while other buyers may or may not be dubed.
     
  11. knavel

    knavel Country Gent

    Dec 26, 2009
    London, England
    They weren't mistaken on that point.

    The only thing that looks plausibly correct on that guitar are the Grover tuners (and not that they are necessarily correct for a Setzer model, but that they look like actual Grover rotomatics).
     
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  12. Hickeroar

    Hickeroar Gretschie

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    Oct 4, 2020
    Texas
    And if this had been some kind of mixup or mistake, and not typical of that auction house, there would have been a dozen immature angry people messaging and harassing them on OPs behalf all week.

    Sorry, but internet mobs should not be fed, and jumping to conclusions and doling out slacktivist "justice" never improved any situation. Judging by the people in this thread chomping at the bit to go on a witch hunt, the OP showed plenty of wisdom in withholding the name of the AH.
     
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  13. On Being Bamboozled:

    I think we need to heed the wisdom
    Chuckles the Clown left behind:

    a little song, a little dance,
    a little Setzer in your pants.
     
    Last edited: Dec 9, 2021
  14. Desirsar

    Desirsar Gretschie

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    Jun 9, 2021
    Lincoln, NE
    I'm surprised we haven't heard back, is that auction company not particularly responsive? (I mean, I have an idea of why, but it's probably against the forum rules to say it...)
     
  15. radd

    radd Country Gent

    Dec 27, 2017
    Santa Cruz
    I must confess, I get a touch concerned, suspicious when a first post is a bomb shell, then crickets…….Hopefully the op is just waiting for resolution prior to posting here again
     
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  16. Ricochet

    Ricochet Senior Gretsch-Talker

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    I understand your point, but you may have the wrong idea of what Gretsch-talk and most of it’s members are about.

    It’s one thing to express a voice of concern in a guitar forum. It’s quite another to act on a newbie poster’s behalf and start firing off emails to a seller we don’t even know.
     
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  17. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    I dunno. Op asked a question, got an answer. May have moved on in life.
     
  18. radd

    radd Country Gent

    Dec 27, 2017
    Santa Cruz
    no way, that is just to logical…:D
     
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  19. TV the Wired Turtle

    TV the Wired Turtle Gretschified

    Jul 25, 2009
    Sandy Eggo
    Pammy is so 2000 n late!

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. BrianW

    BrianW Country Gent

    Oct 21, 2014
    Vancouver Island
    With so many posts stating "it is so obviously a fake, the ... is so wrong" I would have no trouble believing the OP could be feeling that he should have known. Just a guess, but I wouldn't like hearing how badly I had been duped were it me.

    Of course, it is also possible he is trying to resolve the issue before making any more noise about it.
    Who knows?
     
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