Gibson Buys Mesa Boogie

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  1. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    Mesa is a more fitting buy than home entertainment or acoustic piano companies.

    Gibson, under Henry Juskievicz, stopped being a musical instrument maker to being a conglomerate trying to corner a market. They went downhill once they moved out of Kalamazoo. They went from quality to gimmickry.
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  2. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    I don't think we know that. Gibson is owned by a KKR-led fund. There may be Chinese investors. Not sure why that matters over British, African, Argentinian or any other investors . . . .
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  3. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Country Gent

    May 14, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    Still well out of Gibson's wheelhouse. As evidence, I offer the plethora of new Gibson amp choices available at your friendly neighborhood music shop.
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  4. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    I've had a couple of Gibson amps in days gone by. Decent gear at the time. Maybe they're just jealous of Fender's market share.
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  5. Gretschtim1

    Gretschtim1 Country Gent

    Dec 4, 2012
    Dundalk, Md
    I don't think having the Chinese own any American company is ever a good idea or good for America in any way and I'll leave it at that.
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  6. Rmccamey

    Rmccamey Electromatic

    Aug 28, 2020
    To bad it is Gibson-Mesa and not Mesa-Gibson.

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  7. Scott

    Scott Country Gent

    Jun 27, 2008
    Winston-Salem, NC
    Not to derail, but while Gibson amps never really competed with Fender or Ampeg back in the early days, much less Marshall later on, I have a Victoria Electro King, based on the Gibson GA-40 from the late '50s...and it's really the best amp I own. If Gibson/Mesa could go back and revisit something like that there might be hope...
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  8. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Country Gent

    May 14, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    I bolded the part that's my point. They don't do it now, they haven't for quite some time, and even when they did, they weren't particularly popular.
    They weren't competitive at it.
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  9. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Well we don't know the details of the alleged buy do we.
    Yet to be confirmed if Gibson bought more than 50% or what the actual arrangments are.

    Even if Gibson bought 50% plus I'm hoping they take a hands off policy and let MB continue on being the worlds best tube amplifier company unhindered :D
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  10. Bertotti

    Bertotti Friend of Fred

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    Depressing is the best thing I can say.
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  11. pmac11

    pmac11 Country Gent

    Mar 4, 2018
    Toronto, Ontario
    I have a 1956 GA-40 and it's a beautiful thing. I agree, it would be awesome if it were reissued, maybe bump the output from 17W to 35W. A lot of the old Gibson circuits were great, regardless of whether they competed well against Fender in the 50s and 60s. The Skylark and the Falcon come to mind. Technically they were comparable.... Leo just had a head start, better marketing, and California at his doorstep to sell to.
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  12. dlew919

    dlew919 Synchromatic

    Jul 18, 2016
    Sydney, Australia
    I think that if Gibson is going to buy another company, an amp company with a great name is not the worst thing. I wonder how many people buy a 750 dollar epiphone, and enhance that with a 1500 dollar fender amp. The trick will be I think to treat it like epiphone - a separate but valid manufacturer
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  13. michelb

    michelb Synchromatic

    Mar 27, 2020
    We'll see if they screw it up. Maybe the Mesa philosophy will rub off on Gibson and they'll turn a leaf?
  14. Gretschmen65

    Gretschmen65 Country Gent

    May 20, 2016
    QLD Australia
    I have a feeling that Mesa Boogie and Gibson are suited to each other.
    Mesa Boogie have always maintained strong control over the retail pricing of their product. So have Gibson.
    I guess the down side is that your average, very expensive PCB based amp from MB will now rise in price annually, suffer poor quality control and if it survives
    will do so in a limited range outside the budget of your average musician. I think they are nearly there already on the really attractive models.
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  15. BFTmarshall

    BFTmarshall Gretschie

    Jan 12, 2020
    Ain't no Gimmicks here... 4 SG's.jpg
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  16. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    As long as they keep making Mesa amps in their traditional fashion, seems fine to me. Not sure why the had to acquire Mesa rather than have Mesa contract manufacture Gibson badged amps. Part of me wonders if it's a sad day for MESA although Smith seems excited by it.
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  17. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    Those are great---as long as Gibson leaves well enough alone.
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  18. afire

    afire Country Gent

    I'm not sure why they wouldn't do just that. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to spend a lot of money on a company with a great reputation and decent market share, then churn out a bunch of garbage and destroy its value.

    It may simply be that they acquired Mesa because it's a profitable operation doing what it's already doing. If Gibson wanted to put out Gibson branded amps, they could farm out the work to some third party (like they have many times) without acquiring a manufacturer. That said, I'm in the faction that wouldn't mind seeing Mesa-made RIs of some Gibson classic amps. But recreating simple old circuits is hardly Mesa's strength, so I'm not sure how much sense that makes.
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  19. RG7X

    RG7X Synchromatic

    Nov 11, 2018
    Los Angeles
    This news hit hard. I have loved everything about Mesa as a whole... Even their little store here in LA has the friendliest employees of any music store I've been to. I would've loved to seen almost any other company do this... Fender, PRS, Strymon would have been a great fit to name a few. Well, all we can do is hope for the best... but I'm not very optimistic.
  20. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    The article I read says they'll still make Mesa branded amps but that Gibson wanted them to reprise some of their amp designs like GA-20 and 40. So to your last statement, I'm a little baffled. Heck, let's see what happens!
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