G6120T vs G5420T

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  1. MichaelRopp

    MichaelRopp Electromatic

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    Thanks, @MrAstro. Appreciate your thoughts.
     
  2. MichaelRopp

    MichaelRopp Electromatic

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    Those are lovely!
     
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  3. MichaelRopp

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    @Randy99CL: thanks for sharing this! I've seen many Jack Fossett videos, but not this one.

    On the one hand, that video is particularly useful because of the way the back-and-forth is done. Very nicely done.

    On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Jack Fossett would make two rubber bands stretched over a shoe box sound like a thousand-dollar instrument.
     
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  4. MichaelRopp

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    @jackfossett -- it's a pleasure to make your e-acquaintence.

    Your comparison video of these two guitars was fascinating to me because I seriously believe if I were blindfolded I would be unable to tell them apart. That could be a lack of sensitivity on my part, but still, when you play them they are REALLY tonally similar. In any case, I appreciated that video--one of the best back-to-back guitar comparisons I've seen. Thanks.
     
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  5. jackfossett

    jackfossett Gretschie

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    thank you, and to you as well! Appreciate the vote of confidence, but as someone who’s first guitar at age 5 was in fact a shoe box with rubber bands, I can assure you that I did NOT make it sound very good at all…

    Regarding the tonal similarity - alot of it comes down to a good amplifier. A good amp in all honesty makes more of a significant difference to the quality of your tone. If you plug a $50 guitar into a $3k amp I bet it will still sound awesome. But a $3k guitar into a $50 amp will sound like garbage (nowadays it’s actually a moot point because budget amps sound way better than they used to), but either way, into a good amp, they’ll both sound great. A lot of it with the 6120 is the craftsmanship.
     
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  6. CKC411

    CKC411 Gretschie

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    Jan 20, 2018
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    Hey, all. I kinda hesitate to admit this, but I am now in possession of both...

    I just purchased my Stage 2 Dream Guitar. As a fellow GAS sufferer, I own so many guitars that I have lost track. I store them all over and am currently thinning the hers and labeling what I keep. I also ordered a new rack system for easier access. Anyway, I just purchased a Penguin, My Stage 2 Dream Guitar simply means it is somewhat attainable vs. Stage 1, which currently is not. Stage 1, for example, would be a Stephen Stern Custom Shop Surf Green Flake Penguin. My Stage 2 Dream Guitar is my Antique White and Gold Penguin just delivered last week. I did not mean to monologue. I apologize. Is there something wrong with a 5420? I am new to Gretsch, not counting my first REAL guitar (the Gretsch in my thumbnail), but I now own three (I think). I bought a couple late last week, so my Penguin would have some pals. Just curious. Thanks.
     
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  7. new6659

    new6659 Country Gent

    Pictures - we need pictures!
     
  8. Ashley1983

    Ashley1983 Gretschie

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    Aug 9, 2020
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    My 2 cents….. I have a epiphone elitist casino, a Vintera Telecaster and a 6128TSP

    A good peerless casino will get you in the ball park but it’s not the same it’s around 80% there but will do a good job

    As my third guitar I don’t feel like I would benefit from a US tele compared to what I have so that’s why I went for this model. I did plan to chop it and put a TVJ Powertron in the neck maybe add a ashtray bridge and some gold hardware but it’s a really nice guitar and I feel like it’s too good to do to it.

    I did own a 5230T and all I can say is the difference is night and day compared to the 6128T. It sort of sounded in the ball part but more like a imitation than any form of quality guitar

    I think for me most of the time you are paying for the small margins but for me it’s the small margins that make the difference to your sound. It’s the same with amps… you guy a hand wired amp compared to a decent PCB version… and same as pedals a quality hand wired say some keeley effects compared to EHX

    I think as long you are satisfied who cares what it costs or what make it is
     
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  9. MichaelRopp

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    @new6659: here you go! Family portrait. L to R: G6120T BNSV; Epiphone Joe Pass; Epiphone Swingster; G5420T. The horizontal one across the top is a Godin 5th Avenue Nightclub.
     
  10. new6659

    new6659 Country Gent

    They look great!
     
  11. G5422T

    G5422T Country Gent

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    Tasteful collection. Nice. :)
     
  12. T Bone

    T Bone Country Gent

    I think you've nailed it. I have an early 5420 (my 1st Gretsch, it is a very nice guitar). I have two 6120s (RHH and Setzer Hot Rod). As nice as the 5420 is, it is not the equal of the 6120s. The differences are in little things, but also intangibles. The 6120s just have a higher end feel and aura about them. 3-4 times cost difference is about right in my case too. Very hard to put a value on the intangibles in the differences. Hence, it being such a subjective discussion. If I had to choose one or the other, it would be the 6120 unless I could only afford the 5420.
     
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  13. Craig Encinitas

    Craig Encinitas Gretschie

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    My most expensive guitar gets played the least…a G6659tg. It’s a special guitar, and I treat it like having a hot rod that only gets driven on pleasant weekends.

    My MiM Stratocaster is the daily practice axe.

    I do the same thing with my surfboards.
    My best performing custom board comes out for really good and big swells.

    It’s a mindset. I had a 5410, but something just wasn’t right. I could afford a pricier guitar, but settled for a less expensive one. So that got returned after a few weeks and I bought the Broaskaster.

    I am currently seeking a 6120 or a 6228FM (in bourbon stain). I missed out on a great deal recently, but the color wasn’t my first choice. Gotta let those go with no regrets!
     
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  14. MichaelRopp

    MichaelRopp Electromatic

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    Thanks!
     
  15. MichaelRopp

    MichaelRopp Electromatic

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    Thanks! It's interesting that although there are a lot of similarities, no two of these fill the exact same tonal space.
     
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  16. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Country Gent

    No solid body at all? Or it's just for another pic?
     
  17. MichaelRopp

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    Ha! Unfortunately, yes, I do have a couple of solid-bodies as well. G.A.S. knows no boundaries. :) I'll snap a shot of those too.
     
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