Frets and Fretboards

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by ZackyDog, Sep 15, 2020.

  1. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Friend of Fred

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    Feb 6, 2015
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    I love the way my newish G5230T plays---like butter. My G6122-1962/Gent feels like it has speed bumps by comparison. The latter had a refret in 2010 and it was a rush job on the "luthier's" end (and my guitar was returned with significant scratches, but that's another story). I am considering another refret on the Gent in attempt to match the G5230T's.

    Does anyone know what the stock frets are on the G5230T? Thanks for stopping by.

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  2. Gretschmen65

    Gretschmen65 Synchromatic

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    May 20, 2016
    QLD Australia
    I would imagine your luthier should be able to match them for you.
     
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  3. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    Usually medium jumbo but I would definitely have the luthier measure them to confirm.
     
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  4. emitex

    emitex Synchromatic

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    Aug 21, 2014
    NYC
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  5. emitex

    emitex Synchromatic

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  6. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Friend of Fred

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    Thanks, emitex. I didn't realize that the information was so easily accessible. :oops:
     
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  7. emitex

    emitex Synchromatic

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    My favorite sized fret! :- )
     
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  8. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Friend of Fred

    Age:
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    You have those installed on your G6119s?

    Fret Sizes
    G5230T : medium jumbo
    G6120 Setzer Smoke : medium jumbo
    G6122-1962 : vintage small
     
  9. GretschPraise

    GretschPraise Gretschie

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    Jun 26, 2017
    Tampa Bay
    Without seeing the frets, I'm wondering if the "rush job" was standard jumbo frets (taller) or vintage (skinny and tall). If the refret was jumbos, your luthier can likely level them down lower and put a nice crown on them to feel smooth. If they're vintage, they can be lowered, but crowning them will leave a smaller radius on the frets which will still be more noticeable. In which case, you may want to bite the bullet and have a total refret.
     
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  10. emitex

    emitex Synchromatic

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    Aug 21, 2014
    NYC
    Sold the 6119's a while ago. My only Gretsch's now are a 6120 and 5420T
     
  11. sgarnett

    sgarnett Gretschie

    475
    Apr 14, 2020
    Kentucky
    “Medium Jumbo” is used for so many different fret sizes that it has become meaningless. I would use calipers to measure the height and width of the frets on the neck you like. Measure the heights at multiple positions, and note that you are measuring the finished height after pressing, leveling, and crowning. You will need fret wire that is slightly taller. Even the same fret size number from different suppliers may vary in size.
     
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  12. sgarnett

    sgarnett Gretschie

    475
    Apr 14, 2020
    Kentucky
    Also, the shape of the fret crown can affect the feel. Are they rounded, flattened, or even a soft triangle?
     
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  13. swivel

    swivel Country Gent

    May 13, 2018
    PNW
    Sooo... Medium Jumbo should be the same height as most vintage frets. Roughly .046 tall which most like. The other versions are just width changes.. .095, .105 etc and are usually not what you "feel" much.
    If it has Jumbo's, which are like .059 tall it's a tough go for many of us. I can't stand them. I bought a brand new Gibson Jazz Box once years ago. I didn't realize it had tall Jumbos on it! Ugh. Had to sell it.
    Hope you get it worked out.
    Nice frets for general use are .045-.046 tall and .105 wide. For comparison, Strat type frets are the same tall but more like .095 wide or so.
    But man, the fretwire industry is all confused about what they offer, no two seem alike. Especially watch out for #6105, it can be two vastly different things!
     
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  14. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Friend of Fred

    Age:
    56
    Feb 6, 2015
    In the USA
    Thanks.

    Fret Sizes
    G5230T : medium jumbo
    G6120 Setzer Smoke : medium jumbo
    G6122-1962 : vintage small for 2020, not sure what they used on my 2005 model.

    I'm going for medium jumbo, and I'll have luthier (as others have recommended) measure the G5230T frets since they are ideal.
     
  15. sgarnett

    sgarnett Gretschie

    475
    Apr 14, 2020
    Kentucky
    Fender also calls 6130 medium jumbo, and that is 0.106" wide by only 0.036" high.
     
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