Epoxy-glued tuner bushings

Discussion in 'Technical Side of Things' started by Stefan, Mar 5, 2021.

  1. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    A friend asked for help- the tuner bushings in his 2nd hand USACG-neck are glued in, approximately with Epoxy...:confused:
    Any chance to get them out?
     
  2. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    Atlanta
    If epoxy, it will rip out wood and there isn’t a solvent that will work except maybe methylene chloride and that will ruin finish and skin and still may not work.
     
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  3. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    Yup, I‘m afraid you‘re right...my idea was heat from the iron??? It‘s an unfinished maple strat neck.
     
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  4. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    Heat won’t work on epoxy. You’ll have to drill’m out.

    Edit: Not true. Epoxy will soften at 150F/65C.
     
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  5. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    Thanks man!
    Never done before, I guess I‘ll advise him a luthier...
     
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  6. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    Atlanta
    But why remove the bushings? And are we sure it's epoxy?
     
  7. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    He wants a finish and he‘s not sure but it looks like epoxy
     
  8. stevo

    stevo Friend of Fred

    May 1, 2012
    Atlanta
    Well, maybe it's not the worst thing in the world to tape them off very carefully and finish around them? And if we only knew the exact glue...
     
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  9. Outlaw

    Outlaw Synchromatic

    975
    Jul 13, 2011
    UK
    Use a bench drill and go nice and slow.
     
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  10. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    Thanks a lot guys, I‘ll have to see when the neck arrived here. I let you know.
     
  11. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    My apologies. I looked it up, and apparently I don’t know it all... Epoxy will soften at 65C and over, so your initial idea of applying heat with an iron doesn’t sound so bad after all.
     
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  12. swivel

    swivel Country Gent

    May 13, 2018
    PNW
    Heat with an iron should do it.
    But the bushings may drive right out with a proper size dowel or punch as epoxy doesn't stick that well to nickel or chrome. Tap tap lightly and see what happens.
     
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  13. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Age:
    71
    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    I'm wondering why someone epoxied them in the first place.
     
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  14. Skydog

    Skydog Gretschie

    241
    Dec 19, 2014
    Indiana
    My guess, Wabash slim? They were undersized for the hole and spun. @wabash slim: btw how high is the Wabash with all this snow melt?
     
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  15. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Age:
    71
    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    How high?
    I don't do that anymore.

    We're near flood level, but I'm well above the river.
     
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  16. El Marin

    El Marin Gretschie

    275
    Oct 4, 2018
    Madrid, Spain, EU
    Sanding/drilling will be the only way. There is a BAD chance that you are drilling the epoxi and depending on the thickness it can break the neck if it sticks to the drillbit. Epoxi is harder than wood, you know.

    My advice would be, install some tuners that fit in those bushings, add a washer so you don't see it and live with it.

    My real advice would be: Sell that thing and get a Telecaster :D I don't like strats :cool:
     
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  17. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    It‘s NOT my neck :p
     
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  18. Ted Keane

    Ted Keane Electromatic

    51
    Mar 19, 2016
    Ft Collins,Colorado
    Never heard of glueing them.I've had them put in with a lump hammer.It seems to me like a huge waste of time.Either use it as it is with tuners,or start over.You can pick up a neck pretty cheap.
     
  19. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    Thanks guys!
    Again:

    This is not MY neck!!!

    A friend asked me to finish this neck for him and level the frets. It‘s a good USCAG neck, AAA flamed. He bought it 2nd hand.
     
  20. DennisC

    DennisC Country Gent

    Age:
    38
    May 11, 2017
    Germany
    Epoxy is a PITA among PITAs sometimes. Other times, it surprises with durability and strong bondability with surrounding material, especially fibrerish stuff having open pores it can flow into and harden there. Likely, it did so here, and likely, therefore drilling wouldn't be my first attempt, but grinding it out with an abrasive may work.

    But, then again - the risk of damaging stuff always is present.

    ... and glueing them in appears a bit pfuschy to me anyway...
     
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