Eddie Cochran's Influence On Brian Setzer

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  1. ZackyDog

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    Maybe this has been discussed (?); I always wondered why Setzer didn't configure his G6120 like Cochran's (with a DeArmond and P90).
     
  2. Lockupyourfatdog

    Lockupyourfatdog Synchromatic

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    From what I recall on some documentary type show he did he said he was a young poor punk kid and at that time Baldwin had discontinued Gretsch so they weren’t easy to find especially at a price he could afford. He found one for a hundred dollars that was all dismantled in a box. He put it together and that was his iconic gretsch he used for the stray cats. He got one with dynas later on but he claimed the 59 Gretsch was just done right and had a sound that was better than any other.
     
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  3. Synchro

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    It is an interesting question. Originally, I’m sure it was just that simple, Brian Setzer bought what he could find, and just so happened to end up with a ‘59, which is the perfect choice for trestle bracing. As much as I like the sound of single coils, I would imagine that humbucking pickups come in very handy when touring and and never knowing what kind of hum problems await at the next venue.
     
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  4. 5120mantis

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    Agree that he just bought the 6120 he could afford and rolled with it.
    Probably not as much Eddie memorabila floating around in the 80s also.
     
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  5. TV the Wired Turtle

    TV the Wired Turtle Gretschified

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    I think he was more influenced by Eddie's style and gravely inflections more than anything, because he was already trained as a jazz musician and rockabilly at its core is so simple. He decided he wanted to play music for the rest of his life because of some band called the Beagles he heard on a jukebox. Setzer said “The minute I heard George Harrison’s guitar, I knew what I wanted to do with my life.”
     
  6. Teledriver

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    The Beagles...weren't they once known as the Silver Beagles??
     
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  7. Jelly Roll Horton

    Jelly Roll Horton Country Gent

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    I mourn the loss of Eddie Cochran every time I expose myself to his talent and ability. He had so much more to give...
     
  8. T Bone

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    Side note, if any of you are ever near Cleveland, and tempted to visit the R&R HOF, don't miss Eddie's 6120. When I was there 2 or 3 years ago, it was up on I think the 3rd floor, display window in the concourse. Pretty much away from everything else. Would be easy to miss if you didn't venture around a bit.
     
  9. ZackyDog

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  10. 5120mantis

    5120mantis Country Gent

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    Some great instrumentals
    Scratchin'
    Eddie's Blues
    Strollin'
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    I modded my 5120 in honor of Eddie's guitar
     
  11. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

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    I thought they had that hit Ambulate as if you were a Lower Mesopotamian.
     
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  12. Synchro

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    I tried that once and they threatened to lock me up for observation until I could prove I was sane. :)
     
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  13. wabash slim

    wabash slim I Bleed Orange

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    How'd you prove that? Looking for an escape clause myself.

    As to Eddie and and Setzer---
    Brian used Eddie as a starting point---emulated him, but not a direct copy. We all build on what came before us. That, and Eddie didn't have the 301 or any of Tavo's pedals.
     
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  14. Synchro

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    I always give you as a reference. I tell them, “Wabash Slim is walking around free, and he’s even crazier than me”. :)
     
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  15. wabash slim

    wabash slim I Bleed Orange

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    I'm not free, but I am reasonably inexpensive.

    Y'know, the voices may not be real, but they've got some interesting ideas.
     
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  16. Synchro

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    Great point. :)
     
  17. Gretschtim1

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    They were also called Johnny and the Moon "Dogs" for a short period in time.
     
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