Dynasonics versus Humbuckers

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by Hoot, Sep 17, 2020.

  1. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Country Gent

    Mar 6, 2014
    Phoenix, AZ
    I don’t doubt your experience but I’m saying it’s all relative, and I don’t know how adjusting the slugs changes noise in a Dyna, but maybe it does and I never noticed. I prefer single coils and the worst of the bunch are most P90s and an unshielded Jazzmaster pickup. They seem to be RF antennas on the side. Dirt/volume are only going to multiply the annoyances.

    FYI, I noticed many of my modern Gretsch Dynas don't have a grounded cover, which could make things worse with hum/interference. TVJs, just about every other Dyna I owned have grounded covers. Still, Shielded wire eliminates the need for cavity shielding but unless one goes nuclear with copper foil, the coils on top and bottom remain open to RF interference.
     
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  2. Hoot

    Hoot Electromatic

    9
    Jun 25, 2019
    Southern IL, USA
    You guys are great. Thanks for all the info. My main guitar is a 95 Am Std Strat, but I swapped the pickups out for the noise free lace sensors. I'm in my late 60's...saw The Beatles in concert. I feel I deserve a top of the line electric before I die, and have always wanted a Gretsch. My loving wife is ok with it. Haha I still play out occasionally, or at least I did before the covid. Jerry Miller, of Eileen Jewell, is just such a tasty player, he reawakened my passion for a Gretsch.

    I'll post a pic or two when the time comes.
     
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  3. Marv666

    Marv666 Electromatic

    83
    Jul 26, 2020
    Germany
    I´d really be interested to see how they sound!

    That´s the best solution, get one of each:D
     
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  4. calebaaron666

    calebaaron666 Friend of Fred

    Aug 15, 2018
    Portland, Maine
    I was getting an awful lot of noise from my rig a few weeks back.
    The only change I had made recently was plugging in a digital clock.
    Unplugged the clock and NO MORE NOISE!
    :D
     
  5. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Age:
    70
    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    Even more---one solid body, hollow bodies with trestle bracing, post, or center block. Then, there are single cuts or doubles, and a variety of colors. The choices are endless!
     
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  6. Wozob

    Wozob Country Gent

    Jul 6, 2014
    The Netherlands
    I have guitars with both Dynas and Filters, because I could never choose. I like the sound of Dynas slightly more but not in all applications. I find Filters more versatile. I tend to use Dynas with a clean sound and Filters with overdrive. Based on your musical preferences and playing out occasionally I would lean to Dynas. Hum shouldn’t be too much of a problem.
     
  7. Axis39

    Axis39 Country Gent

    Age:
    52
    Jun 2, 2008
    Beaumont, CA
    I have a 5126 with Dearmond 2000's. It's been one of my main stage guitars for years. Only ever had a problem with hum when the power was so dirty, it just didn't matter. I play the feedback like it's an instrument all it's own... I like it. I've heard them described as Dyna lights... Dunno for sure. I find I can get them to be more twangy than my Tele, creamier and smoother than my HB equipped Les Paul. Grunty on the bridge, Jazzy and fat on the neck.

    I have a 6129 TLS with HS Filters. I love the guitar... But, I miss the openness of single coils when I play it. I mean it still sounds fantastic! But, with about any humbuckers, I am always kinda missing a little something... Touch sensitivity? Feel? I dunno. Still sounds great, but always missing that little thing. It will accompany me on gigs, but is rarely the first guitar I reach for (unless earlier mentioned dirty power makes a single coil guitar impossible to play)

    But, in general, I lean towards single coils, Tele, P-90's Dearmond 2000's, etc.

    I usually am not an overly dirty player, and don't use a compressor, but I do loves the fuzz and getting kinda over the top from time to time... Even then, I really don't get a lot of buzz. If I do, I usually just turn slightly one way or the other and Bob's your uncle.
     
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  8. Stefan87

    Stefan87 Synchromatic

    918
    May 20, 2019
    Brisbane, Australia
  9. Chmason85

    Chmason85 Gretschie

    398
    May 1, 2018
    Philadelphia
    It’s been years since I’ve played a guitar with Humbuckers, and currently I am down to just one guitar which is my 53 VS jet with T-Armonds, that’s how versatile I find them. I don’t plan on buying another electric guitar anytime soon. They definitely have some hum but it’s so minimal, and the middle position is hum-cancelling anyway. I don’t play with much gain, just whatever dirt the amp will give me and a delay pedal. My vote is for T-Armonds/Dynas!
     
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  10. Lockupyourfatdog

    Lockupyourfatdog Synchromatic

    612
    Aug 8, 2016
    Everett wa
    The only dyna like single coils I really like are the t-armonds. The others seem too weak. The TAs though. Phenomenal! mid still prefer filters though if I had one choice. Preferably a tv classic plus in the bridge position. So start with the filter then get another with TAs to offer some variety
     
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  11. TeleKing

    TeleKing Electromatic

    7
    Jan 28, 2016
    Granger
    The entire "my sound" for both projects, indie rock and Americana, are built with dynasonics in my 5125's and my 5127. There is just a uniqueness to the sound of those guitars. My sound is mostly clean with just enough dirt around the edges and that makes the guitar cut through anything. I've never seen anyone around here sound like me, and that's exactly the way I like it. Like one of the posters above said, I use the feedback as part of my sound and it's very controllable as well. I mainly play Fender blackface, brownface, tweed and Vox style amps and those pickups work so well with those. I've been wanting to try the other Gretsch pickups, but I just haven't found one I really wanted to buy at a price I want to pay, and there is no need at this point. But, eventually I will buy something with either TV Jones or Filtertrons.
     
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  12. Denver Twang

    Denver Twang Gretschie

    182
    Sep 24, 2014
    Denver
    I have a gorgeous Cadillac green 6128TCG with Dyna's and have had no hum issues. I love it. I can go from country twang to hard rock, to jazz and blues.
     
  13. Jellicles

    Jellicles Electromatic

    8
    Jan 20, 2015
    Maine
    Check out TV Jones. He has a huge selection of pickups. Perfect for Gretsch.
     
  14. bigjohnbates

    bigjohnbates Electromatic

    83
    Jun 15, 2011
    Vancouver
    My personal favourite guitar has a p-90 in the neck and Filtertron Classic in the bridge so IMO you can do whatever you like then get creative ; ]
     
  15. Berington

    Berington Electromatic

    57
    Jan 6, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Hey Hoot! Well, in a way, you answered your own question, if you study the guitars you love the sound of! George's original Duo-Jet had Duo-sonics... that's just what came on a Duo-Jet. There weren't 35 versions of every model like there are now. (Geez... "I Saw Her Standing there, "Please Please Me..." all those iconic first songs were played on that Duo-Jet, with DeArmond Duo-sonics.) George soon graduated to the first of his 2 Country Gentleman models, ("She Loves You," "I Want To Hold Your Hand," etc.) with original Filtertrons, then later in '64, ("Help!" & beyond) went to his Tennessean, with Hi-LoTrons, back to single-coil pickups. And of course later, he played a Strat (typical single-coil Fender pickups), an Epi Casino (P-90s), a Les Paul (humbuckers), THE famous rosewood Tele, and many others. This doesn't even mention his major contribution to the "'60s" sound, his "secret weapon," Rickenbacker 360 12-string, with btw, single-coil "toaster" pickups.) But talking about pickups... it depends on the sound you want. If you want the smoother, slightly less-brite humbucker sound, then Filtertrons would be the right choice. If you want a brighter, clear sound that cuts through almost anything, the Duo-sonics or Hi-LoTrons would be good. True, single-coils may have more hum problems, especially with the extra toys you want to use, but there are those who believe that's just part of the sound of an electric guitar! that MAY be up for debate... there are many things to help with that these days. But your EARS and EYES should be your best guide! Find out what your favorites players were playing! And keep in mind, there were no Tube-screamers then, and compressors were limited to what was inside a control room. Good luck!
     
  16. whitetip24

    whitetip24 Electromatic

    7
    Mar 27, 2011
    U.K.
    TV Jones does all different sizes too, so getting a jet with dynas isn't the end choice. If you don't like the dynas TV does dyna sized filtertrons that just slot in.
     
  17. DasherF

    DasherF Electromatic

    46
    Aug 28, 2020
    Minneapolis, Mn
    Just a curiosity...would shielding the cavity work as it does in Gibsons?
     
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