BroadwayJade Penguin aging

[Bertotti]

This surprises me a bit. I wonder why the covers aren’t aging and the binding and heel cap are.

 

[Bertotti]

This surprises me a bit. I wonder why tue covers aren’t aging and the binding and heel cap are. View attachment 203701 View attachment 203702 View attachment 203703 View attachment 203704

@Synchro @thunder58 would one of you put this thread where it belongs. I botched up posting it and wound up in the wrong forum.

 

[Srellim1]

The aging binding looks fantastic.

 

[Bertotti]

The aging binding looks fantastic.

I just wish the covers would have aged as well! I couldn’t appreciate aging until I got this Strat. Blizzard Pearl 60th anni mim. But the pickguard has aged magnificently!

 

[Back in Black]

This surprises me a bit. I wonder why tue covers aren’t aging and the binding and heel cap are. View attachment 203701 View attachment 203702 View attachment 203703 View attachment 203704

B,

Different types of materials comprised of different chemical mixtures, very likely sourced from different suppliers.

No consideration is given as to how these differences will be affected by aging.

Best,

BIB.

 

[Highnumbers]

This one is easy to explain -

The body (including heel cap, binding, logo etc) is clear-coated, which has yellowed to some extent. The other parts were added to the guitar after paint.

 

[Bertotti]

This one is easy to explain -

The body (including heel cap, binding, logo etc) is clear-coated, which has yellowed to some extent. The other parts were added to the guitar after paint.

I hadn’t thought of that!

 

[Bertotti]

Now that I’ve had a few minutes to think about it I think I want to put a similar clear coat over those removable pieces. I would like them to age similarly.

 

[TV the Wired Turtle]

got beat to it, body is sprayed and that binding is not the same substrate as those plastic covers. so ya.. as you know

 

[G5422T]

Is the Jade finished in lacquer?

 

[Bertotti]

Is the Jade finished in lacquer?

I don’t know.

 

[G5422T]

I don’t know.

The reason I asked is because my Phoenix binding and headstock are "aged." The factory sprayed it with a tinted lacquer.

It's looked like this from New. The truss rod cover is the same as the binding material, but was not sprayed.



On some models, Gretsch used an "aged" binding material. Same as the "white" binding, but it's tinted.

My 6122-58 is a poly finish, with the aged binding.


I've had poly finished guitars age with time. Not as quick or as drastic as aged lacquer, but nice.

Guess the factory didn't think about making the truss rod covers match the binding on ours. I still love it.

 

[Ricochet]

I just wish the covers would have aged as well! I couldn’t appreciate aging until I got this Strat. Blizzard Pearl 60th anni mim. But the pickguard has aged magnificently!

Beautiful! Scuff’m up and marinate them in some tea(Oolong if you want to be specific) let dry, and repeat the process minus the scuffing up till you’ve reached the desired hue.

 

[Bertotti]

Beautiful! Scuff’m up and marinate them in some tea(Oolong if you want to be specific) let dry, and repeat the process minus the scuffing up till you’ve reached the desired hue.

I’ve seen that done before tea and coffee mixture. On the Strat I like the contrast. On the Penguin I might give it a go. I have some tea bags. I love tea so I’m not sure I want to waste it on plastic!

 

[Bertotti]

Is the Jade finished in lacquer?

I found my post with the specs sent to me by Fender. Not sure how accurate they are close but read to top and back body dimensions and tell me they have their crap together. Anywho this states Gloss Urethane and it does have that feeling. But in sounds great feels good but a bit on the heavy side and looks a million times better in person.

View attachment 102025 Yes, when I bought mine I emailed and asked about the number built and the reply was,
"Hello John,
It looks like we're capping that model at 75 units. I show that its production run was from 11/2015 to 06/2016, so it's definitely a limited model!"


and the specs they sent to me and it does have a pinned bridge,

"Oct 3, 16:45 MST

Hello John,
I'll get you a rundown of what I have below!

JT15092757 - G6134TD-LTD15 Penguin Double Cutaway in Broadway Jade from 11/2015, made in Japan.

Model Name: G6134TDC-LTD15 Penguin Double Cutaway
Model Number: 2400502849
Category: Solid Body Guitars
Body Style: Double Cutaway,
Upper Bout: 11.5” (292mm),
Lower Bout: 16” (406mm),
Waist: 9.75” (248mm)
Scale Length: 24.6" (625mm)
Top: Arched Laminated Maple
Bracing: N/A
Back: Chambered Semi-Hollow Mahogany Body, 13.25" Wide, 1.75" Deep
Upper Bout: 10.5” (267mm)
Lower Bout: 13.5” (343mm)
Waist: 8.625” (219mm)
Neck: Maple, Standard “U” Shape
Width at Nut: Bone, 1-11/16" (43mm)
Fretboard: Ebony, 12" Radius (305mm)

No. Of Frets: 22, Medium Jumbo
Bridge: Ebony-Based Pinned "Rocking" Bar Bridge
Hardware: Chrome-Plated
Machine Heads: Grover® ImperialTM Chrome-Plated Die-cast Tuners
Pickups: High Sensitive Filter’Tron™ (Bridge and Neck)
Pickup Switching: 3-Position Toggle:
Position 1. Bridge Pickup
Position 2. Bridge and Neck Pickups
Position 3. Neck Pickup

3-Position Toggle Master Tone Switch:
Position 1. Medium Level, High Frequency Roll Off
Position 2. Switch Out of the Circuit, Pickup is Wide Open (That Great Gretsch Sound!)
Position 3. Slight Level, High Frequency Roll Off
Controls: Volume 1. (Neck Pickup),
Volume 2. (Bridge Pickup),
Master Volume,
Master Tone

Finish: Gloss Urethane
Colors: (2400502849) Broadway Jade
Unique Features: White Sparkle Bound Fingerboard and Headstock,
Multiple Body Binding with White Sparkles,
Inlaid White Winged Gretsch Logo on Headstock,
White Pearloid Neo Classic "Thumbnail" Inlay Position Markers,
Jeweled Arrow Control Knobs,
White Sparkle Truss Rod Cover,
Knurled Strap Retainer Knobs,
Adjustable Truss Rod
Case: Includes G6238XL Deluxe Hardshell Case
U.S. MSRP: $4,539.00
Specs: Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice
Strings: NPS, .010, .013, .017, .026, .036, .046
Source: Japan
Introduced: 11/2015"

I also asked about reading the sn# and the reply was,

"Hello John,
Really, after the prefix (JT15) it's all sequential, there's not a whole lot to read with the modern serials."

and mine,

 

[ToneM1]

I found my post with the specs sent to me by Fender. Not sure how accurate they are close but read to top and back body dimensions and tell me they have their crap together. Anywho this states Gloss Urethane and it does have that feeling. But in sounds great feels good but a bit on the heavy side and looks a million times better in person.

Hi John! Where are you in South Dakota? My Mom’s side of the family homesteaded there in Belle Fouche in 1870.

 

[Seamus]

The reason I asked is because my Phoenix binding and headstock are "aged." The factory sprayed it with a tinted lacquer.

That's wild! I never really noticed this on my Phoenix until I checked just now. The binding has clearly faded, but I'm only now really seeing that the edges of the headstock sparkle are aging in a very cool way.

 

[Bertotti]

Hi John! Where are you in South Dakota? My Mom’s side of the family homesteaded there in Belle Fouche in 1870.

Almost as far east as you can go! I live outside Garretson. I do have a shop in Rapid City I work at also in my travels. I hope to head that way again in a few weeks I love it over there but the prices are so high compared to the pay. Nut jobs moving in from the coasts are messing it up. I’ve run into some really winners over there who live there now and brought all their problems with them.

 

[Henry]

I think I have an extra TRC if you'd like it for experimentatuon / backup (I bought it used as the cheapest way to get replacement TRC screws).

 

[Bertotti]

I think I have an extra TRC if you'd like it for experimentatuon / backup (I bought it used as the cheapest way to get replacement TRC screws).

Truss rod cover? I’m good. I just thought it was odd that it didn’t age like the rest of the guitar but after the explanations provided it makes sense. Thanks!