Bluetooth turntables

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  1. joblow

    joblow Electromatic

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    Jan 29, 2011
    adelaide
    Hi just wondering if anyone has any experience with a Bluetooth turntable.
    I need a turntable and the wireless thing really appeals to me but does it loose something without the wires?
    Thanks
     
  2. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
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    I have a Bluetooth amp, which allows me to pump music into my stereo speakers from my iPad. When it works, it’s great, but it doesn’t always work and dropouts really suck al of the fun out of it.
     
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  3. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    I trust wires more than transmitters and receivers. They're a whole lot less complicated, and there's far less to go wrong. I think that I have the same rig as Synchro, and haven't had an issue with it yet, but I'd prefer a direct connection.
     
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  4. joblow

    joblow Electromatic

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    Jan 29, 2011
    adelaide
    Thanks hadn't thought about drop outs so that's something to look into.
     
  5. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    Drop out is usually a function of change and movement - i.e. the 2 devices changing relative positions. For a turntable and a receiver, you won't be walking around or moving them, so if you can set it up once, it should work fine on a continuous basis.

    Rather than spending a lot of money on a new record player that may or not work out, go to amazon and buy a bluetooth transmitter for around $25. It being the holidays, you will have 2 months to try it out, if it doesn't work, return it. Some have RCA inputs; some can be transmitters or receivers.
     
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  6. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
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    True, although I have had significant dropouts when I was sitting 6’ away from my amp with a clear line of site. RF devices, especially higher frequencies, can be tricky.
     
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  7. Henry

    Henry I Bleed Orange

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    I have problems with even shorter distances, like from the phone in my pants pocket to earbuds in my ears when walking, but always from movement. Makes me wonder if something in your environment or one of the devices is causing an issue. My new phone, Samsung 20+, does not have a 1/8" jack and my 2-year old car now has BT, so I am pretty much 100% unwired for head/earphones now. As a Walkman gen kid, I have pretty much walked around with headphones on since I was 11, and moving to BT has been such a liberating experience, although all my home audio is still wired.
     
  8. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
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    These frequency ranges are vulnerable to interference from other devices. Years ago, I had to network several small buildings and one suggestions was WiFi. The vendor asked if there were homes nearby and when I said that there were, he suggested not using WiFi, because even stray EMF from a neighbor’s microwave could cause problems.

    Antennas for UHF frequencies can be tricky. Static installations, such as microwave links, usually use highly directional antennas which are carefully aimed using signal strength meters. Mobile phones, Bluetooth headsets, etc. are not able to be so carefully aimed, so as you mentioned, relative motion plays a role.

    Don’t get me wrong, I use both WiFi and Bluetooth all the time. I also manage a fairly large WiFi network as part of my job, and it works flawlessly, almost all of the time. I’m not against these devices, but I know from experience that transmitting music across a Bluetooth link is not always successful.
     
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  9. David_GS

    David_GS Electromatic

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    Oct 16, 2020
    Toronto
    We bought one of those cheap Victorla ones for our daughter. This only accepts a Bluetooth signal and the speakers are horrible, it can't broadcast to a Bluetooth speaker. But you can wire it to external speakers, so in that sense, it was fun to break out my old vinyl for a while.
     
  10. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    My daughter just bought one for her boyfriend for Christmas , but I can't give a review until after that . It's all new to me as well
     
  11. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    The antennas are always 90% of the issue.
     
  12. 5120mantis

    5120mantis Country Gent

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    Mar 6, 2011
    nj
    I have the Ion hooked up to some computer speakers, it works ok.
    I want a victrola or Crosley i think the crosely stylus is not that kind to your vinyl.
    I do have an old school tube driven cabinet turn table before you get too worried.
    The portable is so i can jam xmas tunes while running my train under the tree and make some youtube videos for family and friends to enjoy.
     
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  13. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

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    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
    Those old phonographs always cheaped out on the cartridge/needle and the speakers. The stylii they used were the cheapest available, but still better than the actual needles that went with the pld school spring motor acoustic Victrolas that my folks listened to 78s on. You have to go to audiophile quality gear to avoid those cheap units. I have a small Cambridge Research computer monitor setup with a subwoofer and two satellite speakers. Compared to the cheap plastic 3" speaker things that pass for monitors, this actually sounds pretty good. Sadly, I think the company's out of business now.
     
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  14. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Country Gent

    May 14, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    I would be very leery, that BT table probably has a piezo needle. Avoid those, they sound tinny and they may as well be sandpaper as far as your LP is concerned.
    Moving-magnet is the way to go.
    I have a Pro-Ject turntable, real old-school, belt drive and a weight on a string as the anti-skate mechanism. I also have a Bellari phono preamp that's tube powered but includes a USB output, you could probably plug a BT transmitter into there.
     
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