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Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by sgarnett, May 8, 2020.
Those mods look great. You really made it your own.
Very different lighting. The pics of the edges are from my kitchen, the tele is on my workbench by a window, the first few Smoke pics are from months ago and at night, the one in front of the door had very little lighting, the one up close of the body had some sunlight from a nearby window.
In person it looks like a faded orange.
Thanks. New frets and a new nut and I'll probably consider it "done".
That’s cool man
Look at the contour of the area circled on each model
I realize the 5420 is a better guitar than the streamliner but the streamliner has better lines IMO.
If the streamliners had the big F holes they would be a better and more affordable mod project as a 6120 substitute.
Wow, I hadn’t noticed that! Thanks, @Parttime.
It would probably be feasible to convert the 2420 parallel bars into trestle or ML bracing (and easier than starting from a sound post 5x20 model). With the smaller f-holes, that would be closer to a Tennessee Rose I guess.
The smoke do look different in each type of lighting
I had space control bridge on it I really liked but the adjustamatic has better tone
Well, there goes the proceeds from the last three guitars I sold! Guess I better get some more listings up ....
Thanks guys! I think ....
I'd need to see measurements, hard to tell if the difference is due to color, camera angle or picture quality. Interesting comparison.
I think they’re making the streamliner in the same jig as the 6120’s
But the 5420 has a different jig
The photos from the rear are definitely more telling.
I hope you don’t mind but I cleaned up this photo of your guitar and I’m reposting it again because this axe is the bomb man!
Have you considered fitting an arm rest to the body? That way your forearm would have no contact with the edge. Here:
Definitely! I’m always in search of a better armrest design, and have tried several. That Abel armrest looks promising - I’ll check it out - thanks!
I also discovered the Alvarez AG60AR, a Grand Auditorium guitar with a beautifully-executed beveled armrest. It’s made in China and inexpensive, but well-spec’ed, well built, and like Gretsch it punches way above its weight. I’ve sold off “better” guitars in favor of the Alvarez.
The banjo-style armrests like the JP and Penguin rests don’t get the geometry right, but I’ve thought about trying to make my own version of the JP.
Oh, and I haven’t had good luck with designs using suction cups. They tend to come loose at bad moments. Wetting them helps, but that’s not great for lacquer.
Balance is very important too. Anything that needs pressure against the lower bout to stabilize it is a non-starter.
I was seriously considering either a Rat Rod 5410 or Players Edition 6120 as a platform for carving a custom armrest. That may still happen, but the Smoke just ticks a lot of boxes.
If I was gonna get a players I’d go for this one. The players also have the 2 1/4 inch body’s. They should be pretty comfortable.
@jarrodtaylor , did you post somewhere that your compound-radius Smoke varied less than expected (like 9.5 to 10)? I’m sure I read that but can’t find it.
Anyway, that conical section would be measured from nut-to-bridge. I would still expect to measure somewhere around 11-1/4” at the end of the fretboard though.
Did you go with the Standard Series 12” Serpentune with 2-29/32” post spacing?
Mine's 10" at the end of fretboard. I went with the standard 12" titanium Serpentune. Better to have a higher radius bridge than lower.
With all that said, the action is low, there's no fret buzz, intonation is fine, and I don't have issues bending strings anywhere on the neck. I stuck the bridge on, did a setup, and it works.
There's nothing particularly wrong with the stock bridge either, just to be clear. It was a tune-o-matic but not the crap rattle-y one Gretsch usually ships. I'm guessing it was a Gotoh model. It's on a Jet right now, in fact. I wanted the sound of a titanium bridge on this guitar. Simple as that. The stock guitar was done really well and the changes I made were just because I wanted them, not to make up for weak points. I'm going to being doing some surgery on it tonight to try it with T-90, too (TV Jones shipment is scheduled to delivery later today).
Sounds like an awesome combination!