5420 pup swap - and hello!

Discussion in 'Electromatic Gretsch Forum' started by Terry_Collier, Sep 11, 2021.

  1. Terry_Collier

    Terry_Collier Electromatic

    Sep 11, 2021
    United Kingdom
    Just joined, so firstly hello!

    I would really appreciate some advice please
    I have a 5420 with stock black tops, and a 5120 which is fitted with TV Classics English Mount mod. I’d like to swap pickups over.

    From reading on here I think that if I buy a couple of “adapters” to fix onto the English Mount, I’ll then be able to use the existing bezels on my 5420 - so that should be sorted…

    I’m just checking on the bit where I then put the black tops into my 5120 … would I be able to just use the E2 modded bezels on there - or is there anything else I need to get? Any advice would be great - and if there’s an tips or hints you can suggest, I’d appreciate
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  2. calebaaron666

    calebaaron666 Friend of Fred

    Aug 15, 2018
    Portland, Maine
    Will the bezels on your 5120 fit on the 5420?
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  3. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

    Dec 1, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    Welcome to the forum, Terry!
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  4. Jeff67

    Jeff67 Country Gent

    Nov 3, 2019
    Crockett, Texas
  5. Cdb1961

    Cdb1961 Gretschie

    May 5, 2018
    Orange Park, Fl
    Hello and best of luck. I swapped my 5420 to TV Jones Setzer models and loved it. The new pups came to life when I swapped the wiring harness. Surprised just how much it gained… B62ADA67-1956-413F-B8A4-EB60F30E97AB.jpeg
  6. Dana Rudd

    Dana Rudd Country Gent

    Nov 26, 2019
    Greybull, WY
    Hello Terry and welcome to the forum. Sounds like you have a plan. I've not swapped any pickups on my Gretsch models so can't answer your questions. Someone will be along to offer advise.
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  7. Terry_Collier

    Terry_Collier Electromatic

    Sep 11, 2021
    United Kingdom
    Hi, thank you all for the warm welcome. I’ve been enjoying reading this forum for a while now - I’m glad I stopped being lazy and actually joined
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  8. Terry_Collier

    Terry_Collier Electromatic

    Sep 11, 2021
    United Kingdom
    Wow that White is so nice! If only I could afford one in every colour available …
  9. Terry_Collier

    Terry_Collier Electromatic

    Sep 11, 2021
    United Kingdom
    Thanks. I think they should fit, which would make it simpler?

    To make matters worse (or better?) I’ve been playing the stock black tops again this afternoon - after playing around with pup height - and found myself falling back in love with them !!!

    if I’m being honest it may be more of an aesthetic thing (sorry if that’s shallow, and no disrespect to other black top owners!)

    I realise I do like the sound, but I would prefer to have the gold pups … don’t suppose anyone knows if standard filtertron covers would be an option - or are the dimensions different?

    thanks again
  10. Archtops

    Archtops Country Gent

    Mar 4, 2021
    Welcome aboard Terry. Best of luck on the swap!
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  11. Trash Kidd

    Trash Kidd Country Gent

    Dec 14, 2015
    London U.K.
    Welcome!!! From Surrey UK!!!
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  12. JC higgy

    JC higgy Gretschified

    Jun 6, 2008
    Belfast Norn Iron
    Welcome to GT Terry!
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  13. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    Admin Post
    Welcome friend
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  14. new6659

    new6659 Country Gent

    Welcome, Terry. I believe the dimensions should be the same.
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  15. Terry_Collier

    Terry_Collier Electromatic

    Sep 11, 2021
    United Kingdom
    Thank you
  16. PRO JEcT

    PRO JEcT Electromatic

    Sep 21, 2018
    I have the same feelings about the Blacktops. Some bodies just react differently. I didn't care for them on the 5432 Pro jet (swapped for TV Jones Classic) but I like them on the 5410, which frustrates me to no end since I had planned from the get-go to rig it with HiLo Trons to attempt to replicate the clarity of my old Nashville Tennessean.
    Looks like I have to buy another one.
  17. Terry_Collier

    Terry_Collier Electromatic

    Sep 11, 2021
    United Kingdom
    Thanks for all the replies. Just to update last weekend I got the urge and went for it!
    I did intend to solder the pots - but admit that I got a bit scared when I saw more wires than anticipated.. I got a sweat on, and felt like I was trying to dismantle a bomb ... So I ended up splicing and heat shrink
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  18. wabash slim

    wabash slim Gretschified

    Feb 10, 2010
    lafayette in
  19. radd

    radd Country Gent

    Dec 27, 2017
    Playing guitar
    I bet ya found out they fit fine with the adaptors. I put TVJones T Armonds in my 5420 along with the full wiring, switch and pots. Worked great.

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  20. Terry_Collier

    Terry_Collier Electromatic

    Sep 11, 2021
    United Kingdom
    All good thanks. Enjoying this fine forum - and getting the bug back for all things Gretsch :)
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