year and model?

Discussion in 'Vintage Gretsch Discussion' started by cdesca1, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. cdesca1

    cdesca1 Newbie

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    Jul 14, 2016
    new orleans
    Anyone have an idea of the model and year of this beauty?
     

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  2. catfish72

    catfish72 Synchromatic

    958
    Oct 23, 2011
    London, UK
    l'd say it's a fake but others may think otherwise.
     
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  3. Mal Belford

    Mal Belford Gretschie

    403
    Apr 4, 2016
    Sweden
    By looking at poor pictures like this....ill say fake....

    As ive never seen serial nubler font and the way it is presented on the headstocks backside and lighted like that..mis wrong...the absence of trussrodcover is bad...as it should be there...and all that....


    High res quality pics is a plus....


    Many fakes always have dizzy photos...mand por taken ones....

    So keep away...heads up.

    Model number on newer gretches is labeled....inside the pot cavity (japaneese made)....

    Also that type of serial is wrong...


    My verdict=FAKE.

    Some parts as the tailpiece seems added and may be real...
     
  4. Mal Belford

    Mal Belford Gretschie

    403
    Apr 4, 2016
    Sweden
    Also the shape pattern is wrong...

    As gretsch run standard on that...on their jets...
     
  5. englishman

    englishman Gretschified

    Age:
    62
    Apr 5, 2014
    Detroit
    Looks like a Baldwin era Roc Jet to me.
     
  6. englishman

    englishman Gretschified

    Age:
    62
    Apr 5, 2014
    Detroit
    71-72 ish.

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  7. johsonrod

    johsonrod Country Gent

    Apr 14, 2010
    Toronto
    Eman beat me to it. Most definitely a Roc Jet.
     
  8. ZackyDog

    ZackyDog Friend of Fred

    Age:
    55
    Feb 6, 2015
    In the USA
    8/August 2003?:D Looks like a counterfeit based on the appearance and the serial number scheme on the headstock.

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  9. johsonrod

    johsonrod Country Gent

    Apr 14, 2010
    Toronto
    I'm pretty sure they were in production until FMIC took over around 2003.
     
  10. afire

    afire Country Gent

    It's a model 7611 Porsche Pumpkin Roc Jet. The serial number dates it to August (8) of 1972 (2), the third guitar completed that month (003).
     
  11. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

    Age:
    53
    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    Looks like a nice baldwin-era early seventies porsche pumpkin orange roc jet to me. Before the introduction of the stop-tailpiece and these generic far- east humbuckers.
    Looks desireable to me. I played one that looked very similar and it was gorgous!
    Fishy production number? Maybe. Could some expert chime in, please?
     
  12. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

    Age:
    53
    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    Thanks, afire.
    You are the man.
     
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  13. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Not fake! Veryyyyyyy cool!
     
  14. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

    Age:
    56
    Jul 30, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN

    Bingo. Afire is 100% correct. There is nothing fishy about this guitar, other than the fact that it's not one you see regularly.It's definitely a Baldwin instrument.

    It looks totally legit... The shape is correct for the model, all of the hardware is correct including the REAL Baldwin-era blacktop Supertrons (yes, Supertrons), and the serial number nomenclature and placement are dead-on for a '72 Pumpkin Roc Jet. If you're looking to buy this, I'd jump all over it-- my only advice is to make sure that the truss-rod adjustment tool is included with the guitar-- That's a Burns Gearbox truss-rod system, and it needs a special tool in order to make adjustments-- And while Burns still makes and sells the adjustment tool, they want £45.00 plus shipping for it!
     
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  15. Mal Belford

    Mal Belford Gretschie

    403
    Apr 4, 2016
    Sweden
    Ah...ok...

    Then ive learned something new......

    Just were heads up due poor photos, aswell that the odd shape is right.

    Then ill take back what i wrote :).

    /Mal
     
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  16. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

    Age:
    56
    Jul 30, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN
    No worries there... unless you're familiar with a lot of Baldwin-era guitars, it's a model that you only see once in a blue moon, and yes, Baldwin is totally responsible for the goofy body shape.;)
     
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  17. Mal Belford

    Mal Belford Gretschie

    403
    Apr 4, 2016
    Sweden
    Read some compressed facts about Gretsh baldwin era.......

    Imteresting....and about the instruments....

    :)
     
  18. cdesca1

    cdesca1 Newbie

    3
    Jul 14, 2016
    new orleans
    Thank y'all so much for the responses and info. This guitar had been my grandfather's since the mid 80's. I could never figure out model or year. I'll take some better pics and upload them. Thanks again guys!
     
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  19. Mal Belford

    Mal Belford Gretschie

    403
    Apr 4, 2016
    Sweden
    Love to see more as it shure gave me a lesson avout Baldwin era Gretsches.
     
  20. thunder58

    thunder58 I Bleed Orange

    Age:
    60
    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    I'm stumped as all good advice here as it has more of a " Les Paul " shape to me then the photos that member englishman has posted . But tartanphantom seems to be positive too . I would just call Gretsch and inquire more . Heck , it's not like you have to call overseas .
    Cool guitar BTW ( I've never seen this model before ) I like it
     
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