Would you help me choose a Gretsch? I am a little lost..

Discussion in 'Electromatic Gretsch Forum' started by Mimmo, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. Mimmo

    Mimmo Electromatic

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    Apr 6, 2016
    Paris France
    I have not been really forced, but you know, if you have 'George' in your band you most likely have to pick a 'John' guitar in order to get that sound. Nobody never really told me "buy this!" but with two gretsces on stage I am not sure we would ever be able to create the last albums' sound.
    Just this.

    But you are right, it would have been a BIG red flag!

    I love the idea of getting a LP Special in TV yellow as a backup for my LP Junior but a gretsch... come on, a gretsch is a thing of beauty!
     
  2. Mimmo

    Mimmo Electromatic

    38
    Apr 6, 2016
    Paris France
    My perfect family :cool:
    I am almost there: I own teles and electro acoustics, oredered a LP Junior and now?
    A cheap special as a backup or a Gretsch?

    Decisions...
     
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  3. Aymara

    Aymara Friend of Fred

    Jul 6, 2013
    Germany
    LOL ... and more than 90% of the audience won‘t notice the difference, so play the guitar you prefer and be happy ;)

    PS: Even if we would talk about George, an Electromatic would be the wrong choice because of the wrong pickups, but who cares ... so play, what you like.

    PPS: Imagine, the Beatles would still exist and play live ... would they still sound like in the 60ies and use the same guitars? I bet not ;)
     
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  4. Mimmo

    Mimmo Electromatic

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    Apr 6, 2016
    Paris France
    Good points.
    Probably it is just because I am a guitar nerd :oops: Actually all I have to do is plug a guitar in and play. Thanks!
     
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  5. Groutsch

    Groutsch Gretschie

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    Jun 9, 2018
    Maryland, US
    Here's a video that might interest you, @Mimmo, and there's even a Gretsch at 14:09:

     
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  6. KelvinS1965

    KelvinS1965 Gretschie

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    Jan 11, 2019
    Wokingham
    Wait until your Junior arrives; you might be like me and decide that you want to sell your Gretsch. ;)

    Before I get thrown off here; you mention a 'fat U' neck; my G5622T is anything but 'fat'. Almost as skinny as my Epiphone Les Paul and maybe even on a par with my SG Standard. I don't know if there are other Electromatics with fatter necks; you may have to step up to the Pro Lines to get that feature.

    PS. I'm not stalking you ;) Just happened to pick this post to read over my morning coffee, then recognised your name/mention of the Junior. :)
     
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  7. Mimmo

    Mimmo Electromatic

    38
    Apr 6, 2016
    Paris France
    No problem at all, my friend :)
    Thanks for chiming in, much appreciated. As I have previously said I am torn between a Gretsch to add to my collection and a 2020 epiphone les paul special. I will wait for the junior to come and when I am in the shop I will try as much guitars as possible for a NGDx2.

    Thanks for the information about the neck thickness (the epiphone lp special seems to have a large neck...Hmmm..)
     
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  8. Mimmo

    Mimmo Electromatic

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    Apr 6, 2016
    Paris France
    Thanks mate!
     
  9. rockinforJesus

    rockinforJesus Synchromatic

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    Nov 7, 2014
    Upstate New York
  10. Mimmo

    Mimmo Electromatic

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    Apr 6, 2016
    Paris France
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  11. Mimmo

    Mimmo Electromatic

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    Apr 6, 2016
    Paris France
    Update on my Beatles tribute band: since the guitarist I am in contact with plays in a Beatles band, he called me today asking if I would rather play classic rock and rock/blues from the 60s until 90s.

    Obviously yes and obviously this spread the choice for my second guitar. Man I love shopping guitar, definitely have to play as much as possible!
     
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  12. Alanqa

    Alanqa Gretschie

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    Aug 22, 2019
    Lancashire UK
    You could get a natural double cut 6122 or 5422 if they exist. Most people recognise JL playing a natural wood semi acoustic. As for the sound, different amp settings and an eq pedal plus the way you play, will make more difference live than the actual pickups.
     
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  13. John Drummond

    John Drummond Gretschie

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    Feb 26, 2016
    Stockport, England
    Can't go wrong with a orange 5420.
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  14. Telechamp

    Telechamp Country Gent

    Oct 20, 2010
    Tampa Bay
    All my "Beatle-esque" guitars were bought used, and were fairly inexpensive (other than the Rickenbacker).

    Gretsch G5120, Epiphone Casino, and Hofner Icon violin bass.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

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    Dec 1, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    Must be the lighting, but that looks more red than orange.
     
  16. Tony65x55

    Tony65x55 Gretschified

    Age:
    63
    Sep 23, 2011
    The 'Shwa, Ontario, Canada
    You're getting lots of good advice. Here's a bit more. How you play a John Lennon part will contribute for more than what guitar you play it on. Lennon's tone was fairly non-descript. Midrangy, relatively clean and percussive.

    The Ric 325 he played is a little guitar. 3/4 scale if I remember correctly. Rickenbacker makes one called the 350 that is the same guitar but full scale. It is much easier to play and sounds the same. I have one. It's a lot of money for one and honestly, it's not that good for that kind of coin.

    Casino's have their own thing going too. They are wonderful guitars but there are Casinos and then there are Casinos and they are different. I am a big fan and currently have four - all different.

    The standard Chinese Casinos look right, play OK but don't sound right. The Epi pickups used in the Chinese ones are muddy and indistinct and the build quality is on par with the price point.

    The Epi Elitist Casino is the Holy Grail of new Casinos. Made in Terada, Japan, it is made by master craftsmen in the same factory that Gretsch Pro-Line guitars are made. Like the Pro Gretsch guitars, the quality radiates from every pore and the guitar will bring a tear to you eye.

    The 1961 Casino reissue and the Gary Clark Blak n Blu models are made in China too but have all American electronics and Gibson P90 pickups. The 1961 has plastic pickup covers, a chunky neck and simply wonderful sound. The BnB has the chrome covers and a thinner neck. It sounded very good but I swapped out the chrome for plastic and it really opened the guitar up.

    My fourth is a new acquisition, an Eastman T64/V, is simply incredible. It is a premium build in every respect - from its ebony fretboard to its Lollar P90s - it screams quality. Sounds wonderful too.

    The price points for these four are all over the map. The Elitist and Eastman are both expensive but the BnB and the 1961 are only available used. They're out there though.

    OK, back to your Gretsch quest.
     
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  17. Mimmo

    Mimmo Electromatic

    38
    Apr 6, 2016
    Paris France
    Thanks again for all the replies.

    The plan has changed, we will cover a wide range of music so I am no more stuck on the Beatles gear. One of the titles is Have you ever seen the rain, for example. So I will bring my telecaster for the first rehearsal and see what happens, after I will move from there and make my decision.

    Good advices here, btw, thank you so much guys :)
     
  18. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Don't rule out the Streamliner's, the necks were pretty chunky on the one's ive tried.
     
  19. Lesgrandepotato

    Lesgrandepotato Electromatic

    4
    Jan 24, 2020
    Uk
    But that rack is not full? It has spaces? It could have more guitars. 1.2.3 more guitars. More guitars is betterer.
     
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