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Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by Paul in Colorado, May 27, 2019.
Why are the reissues called a Tennessee Rose and not a Tennessean? I've never seen an explanation.
Is it not the colour? Tennesseans being brown walnut(?) and the Rose is red. Thats my assumption. I look forward to learning the answer
I think it may have been a copyright problem. The best person to answer this would be @tartanphantom
From what I've read, Chet Atkins took the "Tennessean" name with him when he left Gretsch for Gibson. Although the Atkins family eventually renewed their relationship with Gretsch, Gibson still has the rights to the "Tennessean" name.
Bear in mind that I read this on the internet, so take it with a barrel of salt.
I read THIS on the internet so it must be true.
That is the truth.
A Rose by any other name is still a rose. Here is mine
The Gretsch Atkins models all had different names until 2007 or so.
The Country Gentleman was the Country Classic.
The part about the name, or the part about the barrel of salt?
The name, but it's wise to take many things on the inter web with a barrel of salt.
Gibson also had Country Gentleman name too .. now Gretsch has it back.. so what is the issue with the Tennessean name I have no clue.. Gibson doesn't even use it if they still have rights to the name.. why not sell it back to Gretsch? Is Gretsch even interested? Maybe they didn't even ask. How did Gretsch get Country Gent name and not Tennessean?
That's been my question too. I wonder if Chet was adamant about keeping the CG name as that was one of his songs and it was designed to be his perfect guitar. Tennessee Rose fits a red guitar though, so maybe Gretsch didn't care.
Confusing eh. And fascinating. For another fun story, look up 'Gretsch Broadkaster' and 'Fender Broadcaster', aka the original name for the Telecaster.
This is my ‘62 Tennessean. Chet did take the name to Gibson. The colour of mine is purely down to sun bleaching and ageing. Under the pick guard and bridge base the colour is burgundy.
I pretty much remember reading it was a legal thing when Chet left Gretsch for Gibson. I think this is a similar scenario with the 6120/Nashville naming by Gretsch. Never heard anything about it being about color.
Maybe the copyright issue on Tennessean is not with Gibson. Our local newspaper here in Nashville, owned by Gannett, is The Tennessean.
It's not a copyright infringement issue, it's a trademark issue. The Tennessean newspaper is not in the musical instrument business, so the name similarity makes no difference there. If that were the case, then you, me, and every other citizen of the state would have cause, as we are all Tennesseans, and state residents have been called Tennesseans for much longer than that janky newspaper has been in existence.
Anyone know which Tennessee Roses have ebony fretboards?
I think the ones on the Gretsch site ( Player's Edition and Vintage Select) are both rosewood..
Prefer the name with Rose.
The pre "Players Edition" 6119's have ebony fret boards. (Not original pick guard and rings)