What tuners are SUPPOSED to be on this guitar?

Discussion in 'Vintage Gretsch Discussion' started by chuckfalcon, Mar 28, 2018.

  1. chuckfalcon

    chuckfalcon Electromatic

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    May 25, 2017
    Bowling Green, KY
    Hi, everyone, I recently picked up this 63-64 Gretsch 6120 DC. I was gonna send it off to make the ugly repair look pretty, however it sounds and plays so SO good already.

    ANYWAY, what I really wanna know, is what tuners are SUPPOSED to be on this guitar and does anyone hear have a set I can buy or can you direct me towards where I can buy some? There are no extra screw holes underneath, and the only imprint of past tuners is the ones that are currently attached. I was just curious because i was told that these may not be original to the guitar.

    I'm also looking for a bigsby arm and the lil mute if you know where I can find either.

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  2. Stefan

    Stefan Country Gent

    Jan 20, 2016
    Germany
    Those are van Ghent tuners.
     
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  3. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

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    56
    Jul 30, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN
    Pretty sure those are the original tuners for that time period. Van Ghents, which Gretsch used for a while in the early-mid 60's. The other tuners that would have been used during that period would be Waverlys, but it's hit or miss until 1967, when Van Ghent became the "official" tuning machine for that model.

    Waverlys could not have been the original tuners on that guitar, because the mounting screw points are further apart, and generally can't be covered by the Van Ghent baseplates.
     
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  4. Chris MC

    Chris MC Gretschie

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    Oct 27, 2014
    Orange, Aus
    Congratulations, its an intruiging old guitar and I hope you find the parts you need.
     
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  5. heinzman

    heinzman Gretschie

    I saw them in the e-shop "Guitarage" in the Netherlands longer time ago...
     
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  6. Roger49

    Roger49 Country Gent

    Feb 18, 2015
    Germany
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  7. Roger49

    Roger49 Country Gent

    Feb 18, 2015
    Germany
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  8. afire

    afire Country Gent

    Yep, original. Mostly found on 6120s in '64 (often coupled with gold plated HiloTron frames on the FilterTron pickups. Some Anniversaries and most Tennesseans also had them from about '64 to '66.
     
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  9. chuckfalcon

    chuckfalcon Electromatic

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    May 25, 2017
    Bowling Green, KY
  10. chuckfalcon

    chuckfalcon Electromatic

    29
    May 25, 2017
    Bowling Green, KY
    Thanks a bunch, I checked them out yesterday and they told me the same thing, just nickel. I may just get a set for the time being until I find a gold one so I can fire all six cylinders on this baby.
     
  11. chuckfalcon

    chuckfalcon Electromatic

    29
    May 25, 2017
    Bowling Green, KY
    Since I haven't done it yet, here are some pics of the full guitar. This is a guitar that I never ever dreamed of owning, or wanted to own, mainly because it was orange and it had painted on F-holes. I bought it as something to resell. After I plugged it in that completely changed my mind. This is currently my best playing and sounding Gretsch, and now in my top 3 best sounding guitars. This one is a keeper. Behold:
     

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  12. chuckfalcon

    chuckfalcon Electromatic

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    May 25, 2017
    Bowling Green, KY


    Here's a short video I did with my iPhone 5. 6120 straight into a 60's "teal face" Supro "Royal Reverb". Gretsch and Valco are a match made in heaven.
     
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  13. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    53
    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    Tuners are original. Got the same on my Corvette which is nearly of the same vintage.
     
  14. thunder58

    thunder58 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    60
    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    It's sooo " been around the block a few times " . She's gorgeous in it's own way , just tells stories and has history to it . Enjoy it and congrats on finding it . Man , I'd leave it just the way it is . And if you do get all the missing parts , leave them in a drawer until you're really ready to fix it up . Play it for a while just like it is and see if you like it that way
     
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  15. afire

    afire Country Gent

    I get the impression they may not be selling these anymore. Almost every place I looked was out of stock.

    Some of these old ones are pure magic.
     
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