What to do about arthritis?

Discussion in 'Fred's Barcalounge' started by Jelly Roll Horton, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. Uncle Daddy

    Uncle Daddy Country Gent

    Jan 19, 2012
    Maldon UK
    It's more likely the pressure of a bracelet rubbing the skin in the same dermatome as the injury. This is why you might rub your elbow if you bang it. Tens machines work in a similar way.
    Ginger added to the diet on a regular basis can sometimes help. Electro-acupuncture is often useful. Hot oil soaks can be nice too.
     
  2. dak55

    dak55 Gretschie

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    Unless you pour it on the affected area I'd rather have cramps.:D
     
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  3. larryb

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    LOL! I should be more specific.....drink a shot of pickle juice
     
  4. GreTschocaster

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    Interesting topic. I am currently going through a painful time. I have osteoarthritis in both hands. Unfortunately worse in my left hand. All fingers but not the thumb are problematic. The ring finger has no pain but the range of motion is about 50%. The index finger is the one currently giving me pain. No guitar playing for me until it settles down. The only medication that gives relief is Arthrotec. I changed meds about 2 months ago and my symptoms worsened. So back to Arthrotec. My hand is wrapped in an electric heating pad as I write this. Heat seems to work best for me.
     
  5. Sid Nitzerglobin

    Sid Nitzerglobin Country Gent

    Jun 8, 2015
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    Seems like the best thing for my joint issues is to play every day for at least an hour and probably not more than 3-4 on decently setup guitars. Staying hydrated and trying to limit my smoking (oh yeah, that'll happen :rolleyes:) seem to help too.
     
  6. thunder58

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    Larry , I have actually heard of this . But how much ? How many times a day and so on ......... any idea ?
     
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  7. Gretscheroo

    Gretscheroo Electromatic

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    This sort of adjustment has helped me no end. I have permanent wrist joint damage from a nasty break on my left hand nearly 15 years ago, which severely limited my stamina playing barre chords. Adjusting my technique so that the thumb provides support only, avoiding the tenancy to grip/pinch with thumb and index has worked wonders.

    Open G tuning rocks. Much easier to barre. If it works for Keith Richard's arthritic hands, then I'm sold!
     
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  8. Jelly Roll Horton

    Jelly Roll Horton Gretschie

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    Tonic water works too.
     
  9. Uncle Daddy

    Uncle Daddy Country Gent

    Jan 19, 2012
    Maldon UK
    I'm actually an acupuncture therapist, having completed a full time honours degree in the topic, and training in China. It is nice to see acupuncture gaining more acceptance in the West, but here in the UK there's some concern that folk that have completed a 3 day post-qualification course (eg physios, and so on) feel competent enough to work on the public. Medical acupuncture is supposed to be based on a proper diagnosis which physios and nurses are not usually qualified to give. Doesn't mean it doesn't work, but there's a lot of room for mistakes.
     
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  10. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck Gretschified

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    Yes it does help with night time leg cramps. It has quinine in it, which used to be available as a prescription but is no longer made. 8 ounces at bedtime, gin optional but not recommended. (However it might make you get up and pee more at night, depending on your age and prostate status.)
     
  11. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck Gretschified

    May 17, 2009
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    Don't forget placebo effect either as an explanation. If you believe it will help, it's more likely to.
     
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  12. larryb

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    a tablespoon or 2....or actually a shot glass full.

    Last year we played a very hot outdoor gig and I couldnt drink enough water. Midway through a song, my hands were cramping terribly and I couldn't even hold or change chords. As soon as we ended the song, I signaled to one of the wait staff to bring me either a bowl of pickles or a few shot glasses of pickle juice. They brought me 3 shot glasses filled and I downed them. Less than a minute, the cramping was gone and was able to play the rest of the day without a single cramp. It is amazing how well it works
     
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  13. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

    Apr 9, 2014
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    This. Even without any ailments on a well set up guitar, bar chording all night will stress your hand. And unless the guitar is the only instrument, playing all bar chords is often unnecessary and sometimes muddies up the mix. Learn some chord fragments or shapes that are easier on your hand. Of course, use good posture with your thumb centered on the back of the neck.
     
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  14. thunder58

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    Thank you Dr. Larry ...:p All jokes aside , the tablespoon / shot glass is sounding familiar . Thanks buddy
     
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  15. larryb

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    ;)
     
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  16. MartyT

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    I have arthritis in the middle finger of my left hand. Not the best location for a guitar player!
    I'm not aware of any "miracle" cures, but I have found a few things that have helped me.
    Chinese Reflexology balls are great at loosening up the hands and fingers. And diet is important. When I eat or drink anything that brings on inflammation (sugar, carbs or alcohol) it becomes noticeably worse.
    Soaking it in hot water and Epsom salts helps. Some people say ice, but hot water works best for me. It loosens things up.
    Anti-inflammatory drugs will definitely work, but I try to avoid them because they can wreak havoc on your liver and kidneys over time.
    And maybe the most obvious thing of all........Play a lot! The more I play, the more I CAN play and the tightness and discomfort tend to lessen considerably. That's important, because if you're a guitar player, then NOT playing is not an option.
     
  17. Jelly Roll Horton

    Jelly Roll Horton Gretschie

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    Larry is right. I have experienced the same results. It’s almost instantaneous. Tonic water takes a little longer, still works.
     
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  18. Runamok

    Runamok Electromatic

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    I can tell stories of arthritic conditions, at least the milder forms, in relatives.
    This is a physiological thing.

    They really require moving the body part judiciously, otherwise it doesn’t magically cure itself, no matter the voodoo, chinese whiskey, pokey needles or other reflexology (hokum from the early 1900’s).

    Acidity & hydration of pickel juice though, may have short term benefit over & above the copper-lined underpants.
     
  19. larryb

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    Yup!;)
     
  20. Runamok

    Runamok Electromatic

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    Explains it.

    Darn it, RandyNewman, I’ve been doing it wrong.
    They brought me a shot glass & I’ve been trying to play slide with it.
     
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