What model is this?

Discussion in 'Vintage Gretsch Discussion' started by greens, May 28, 2018.

  1. greens

    greens Electromatic

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    Dec 8, 2017
    Brooklyn, NY
    This might have been the image that first sparked my interest in Gretschs way back when - the back cover of Social Distortion's 1990 self-titled album.

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    It occurred to me today to look it up and I was surprised to find nothing online about it except for an ancient myspace page from a band that got ahold of the guitar years later, probably because they seem to have had some connection with Dennis Dannell.

    https://myspace.com/deluxtonerockets/mixes/classic-my-photos-367034/photo/93877145

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    The caption says "The '59 Gretsch Mike Ness is holding on the self-titled album." However that looks like a Hilo'Tron to me . .which would make this mostly likely a 1960 Single Annie, no?
     
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  2. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Yep, 60s Annie with a B7.
     
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  3. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

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    Jul 30, 2008
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    You mean "butchered" with a B7. Absolutely no need for a tension bar Bigsby on that guitar.
     
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  4. greens

    greens Electromatic

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    Dec 8, 2017
    Brooklyn, NY
    I'm not sure I follow. You mean it should have a different Bigsby instead?
     
  5. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

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    Murfreesboro, TN
    To be original, it should have a G-cutout trapeze tailpiece. Gretsch didn't offer a Bigsby option on single-pickup Anniversary models.

    However, if one were to add a Bigsby, as was done here, the correct model for that guitar's geometry would be a B6, not a B7. The B7 was designed for a shallow neck angle and a thinner body, neither of which a Single-Anni possesses.

    Oh, sure it will function, but the B7 requires two extra holes to be put into the top... Not required for a B6.
     
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  6. greens

    greens Electromatic

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    Dec 8, 2017
    Brooklyn, NY
  7. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck Gretschified

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    Cool looking guitar though.
     
  8. greens

    greens Electromatic

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    Dec 8, 2017
    Brooklyn, NY
    Yeah, I'm not normally into flames but I do like this a lot.

    I've never seen this guitar in another photo with Ness though so I wonder if they just used it for the shoot and never much else. And I can't really see him using a guitar without a bridge pickup for much.
     
  9. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    Oct 18, 2015
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    I like it, though I am sure that it will go out of tune easily.
     
  10. iLoveRocknRoll

    iLoveRocknRoll Newbie

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    Nov 18, 2018
    Oregon
    I just joined the forum and was going to ask if anyone knew anything about that guitar and then saw this post. However, I was wondering if he played that guitar specifically for all the leads on Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell, because the tone on all the lead licks throughout that album are bigger and fatter than on any of their other albums. Am I crazy or does anyone else agree?
     
  11. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

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    Dec 1, 2010
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    Welcome to the forum, ILoveRocknRoll!
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  12. greens

    greens Electromatic

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    Dec 8, 2017
    Brooklyn, NY
    Welcome! As I mentioned above, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't use that Gretsch at all except as a prop for photos. But if he did use it he probably used it only on the 1990 album. By SBH&H he seemed to be using exclusively Les Paul Deluxes with P90s swapped in and humbucker Les Paul Standards.
     
  13. iLoveRocknRoll

    iLoveRocknRoll Newbie

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    Nov 18, 2018
    Oregon
    Thanks guys! You're probably right, greens.
     
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