What are these here DeArmonds... modified G6120?

Discussion in 'THE Gretsch Discussion Forum' started by make1968, Jan 17, 2020.

  1. make1968

    make1968 Electromatic

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    Apr 8, 2019
    Finland
    Please help or reveal: I'm new to DeArmond world, but trying to figure out what are these DeArmonds pictured here... with not the most usual way to place them?
    Also the bridge looks slightly unfamiliar. Is everything correct here?

     
  2. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Country Gent

    Mar 6, 2014
    Phoenix, AZ
    Those look like modern, FMIC designed DeArmond 2ks. They have those notches on the side flange, and yeah flipped around pole pieces, which are ferrous slugs on a 2k, not the actual magnet as on DeArmond Model 2000 and 2000s, if that's not confusing. Bridge looks like a run of the mill AOM, well-worn...
     
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  3. make1968

    make1968 Electromatic

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    Apr 8, 2019
    Finland
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  4. Uncle Daddy

    Uncle Daddy Friend of Fred

    Jan 19, 2012
    Maldon UK
    I've not seen the notched casings before on the more modern version. Any idea what they were fitted to?

    I thought the modern ones had beveled magnets?
     
  5. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Country Gent

    Mar 6, 2014
    Phoenix, AZ
    I’ve seen Fender Tele-Sonic pickups with the chrome bezel removed, and they have the notch, and engraved/stamped “DeArmond USA” on the top side, of course this one is turned around. That model is supposed to have 2ks, but you know those pole pieces should look a little different. I know the 2000s have the bevel but just not sure about 2ks, other that they have concentric circles on the slugs poking out the bottom of the pickup.

    OP, whatever that is, it’d be helpful if you posted more pics.
     
  6. JeffreyLeePierre

    JeffreyLeePierre Country Gent

  7. make1968

    make1968 Electromatic

    14
    Apr 8, 2019
    Finland
    Trying to get some more pictures of the pups. Here's something related. And this teases me to expand to the mystery of the whole guitar, and date it... something strange (besides it being a lefty version, or just because of that!)?
     
  8. make1968

    make1968 Electromatic

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    Apr 8, 2019
    Finland
    So the next ones are to identify this 6120:
     
  9. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

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    Jul 30, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN
    From the additional pictures, those are definitely DeArmond 2K pickups... And definitely NOT original to the guitar.

    Wiring harness and tuning machines also not original.
     
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  10. slickfaster

    slickfaster Gretschie

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    Dec 29, 2009
    Redondo bch.
    48AFFDC7-99D4-403E-B42D-4108B02AFA61.png Can you tell me a little about this one.. it belongs to a 98 55-W and is very weak. I connected it directly to a input jack and couldn’t get it to thump when tapped on.
     
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  11. Uncle Daddy

    Uncle Daddy Friend of Fred

    Jan 19, 2012
    Maldon UK
    I've never seen a 90s 6120 with an access hole in the back. I'm wondering about those tone bars too. Where has the sound post gone!

    It does look like it had a zero fret that's been removed at some point.
     
  12. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

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    Jul 30, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN
    Sounds like a break or short in the coil to me.
     
  13. slickfaster

    slickfaster Gretschie

    323
    Dec 29, 2009
    Redondo bch.
    Was thinking the same
    Is this model worth a rewind or is a TV set a better investment??
     
  14. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

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    Jul 30, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN
    That's a matter of opinion. The modern Gretsch Dynasonics are made by Tokiwa. Some folks like 'em, including myself, but many prefer vintage Dynasonics for their higher output. Most of the Tokiwa-made Dynas run in the range of 7.5-8.5Kohm DC resistance, while vintage DeArmond Dynas can be anywhere from 7-12Kohms.

    Not sure what it would cost to have a modern one re-wound, but it would probably be just as cheap to buy a new one, or save your money and go either the Seymour Duncan custom shop route or T-Armonds. the Seymour Duncans can be wound to your preference, but are a truly custom item made to order-- they don't stock them as a standard item. Consequently, you can end up waiting quite a while for a bespoke set.
     
  15. slickfaster

    slickfaster Gretschie

    323
    Dec 29, 2009
    Redondo bch.
    Thanks for your help....can you tell me
    Which pick up I have??
     
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2020
  16. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

    Age:
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    Jul 30, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN
    If it came out of a 98 model, it's a Tokiwa Dynasonic.
     
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