what amp sounds better? fully cranked! 57 fender custom twin or the vox ac30

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  1. GOOBALL JEFF

    GOOBALL JEFF Gretschie

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    Oct 1, 2019
    london
    very basic riffs but just so you get an idea of what these amps sound like cranked fully. i like them both but what do you think handles the volume the best? and what has the better tone? A. 57 fender custom twin. B. vox ac30 https://soundcloud.com/user-76457720/guitar-tone image-asset.jpeg photo 1 (1).jpg
     
  2. G5422T

    G5422T Synchromatic

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    May 24, 2012
    usa
    Two different dogs in this fight.

    Cranked, both are louder than heck. Depends on what tone you're after for your music.
     
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  3. trefilboy

    trefilboy Electromatic

    To my ears, definately the Fender. Has a cleaner sound which is what I'd prefer, but then it's totally subjective
     
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  4. adauria

    adauria Electromatic

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    Wake Forest, NC
    First one (I assume that's the Fender), but both sound good in their way.

    -Andrew
     
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  5. dmunson

    dmunson Gretschie

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    Dec 19, 2015
    Charlotte, NC
    It really depends on how you define "better". Like someone already said, these are two different animals.
     
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  6. TV the Wired Turtle

    TV the Wired Turtle Gretschified

    Jul 25, 2009
    so cal
    both with a blender control, is the best. :) One reason I mixed up a tweed 50s vibrolux pwr section w an AC30 front end on my Raygun'59 amp. I intended to keep the 6v6's but EL34 give me the best of both worlds. What you have in those pictures.. Btw.. Sooooo beautiful to open up GT and see these first thing :) I want to sit on the floor between them and play all day :)
     
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  7. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

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    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    In my world the full throttle tone would be used for soloing only. I would dial back the guitar`s volume for rhythm work. So this is not easy to decide from the samples.
     
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  8. TSims1

    TSims1 Gretschified

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta
    The obvious answer is you need both and an ABY box. :)
     
  9. Funky54

    Funky54 Gretschie

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    Aug 12, 2010
    Florida
    There is no finer sound then that of a JMI AC30 cranked.
     
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  10. Waxhead

    Waxhead Country Gent

    Aug 30, 2014
    Australia
    Both.
    just different flavours of the same is all :)

    I'm glad you made mp3 files for this test though and didn't waste your time with a youtube video
     
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  11. Bertotti

    Bertotti Country Gent

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    Kind of like asking what tastes better chocolate chip cookies or sugar cookies.
     
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  12. Bertotti

    Bertotti Country Gent

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    Oh and if you haven’t tried it warm a glazed donut then put a scoop of vanilla ice cream on it, finish it and go play those beasts in stereo.
     
  13. mikechandler

    mikechandler Gretschie

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    Jul 7, 2015
    Chandler, AZ
    Number One sounded better to my ears.
     
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  14. Synchro

    Synchro The artist formerly known as: Synchro Staff Member

    Jun 2, 2008
    Tucson
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    It’s chalk and cheese. The only thing in common is the fact that they are both amplifiers; the approach and the results are quite different, but both are good sounding. For my needs, I’d probably go with the Fender, but either is a great amp and played in the clean range they are not all that different.
     
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  15. Gretschtim1

    Gretschtim1 Country Gent

    Dec 4, 2012
    Dundalk, Md
    I love the sound of my 65 Vox AC 30 cranked. Problem is there aren't many places where you can do that these days. Most of the big clubs are long gone and if you try to do it in the smaller places you won't have a job very long. These days you get bitched at if you crank a Princeton...:D.
    Anyway this is an apple vs orange question. They both are capable of creating some wonderful tones.
     
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  16. fender62custom

    fender62custom Gretschified

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    Mar 3, 2012
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    AB Pedal... Get the best of both worlds
     
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  17. T Bone

    T Bone Country Gent

    First up, both sound great! I do wonder what each would do with a bass and drums added in, would they both be as pleasing, or would one outshine the other with a rhythm section in the mix?
    Actually I assume the opposite, both from the sound and the pics scrolling during playback, I presume the first is the Vox.
    Edit: I was wrong, the Fender is first, he answers later in the thread.

    Two really good amps doing their thing (what guitar/pickups were you using?).

    Again, I really like both sounds, which brings me to this...

    Yes, as usual, the correct answer is both. Also @TV the Wired Turtle suggested both (and even made an amp that had properties of both).

    Sounds like you already have both, would be a great mix to have!

    BTW, which flavor of the AC 30 is that? Is it the hand wired version, vintage, standard new edition or?
     
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  18. Robbie

    Robbie Country Gent

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    Jun 17, 2013
    Sarnia Ontario Canada
    Both sound good but for my taste both are pushed harder than they should be, or realistically can be. That said, it’s only one persons opinion but I do like them both just somewhere around 5
     
  19. Having the twin, and only having a ac30cc2, i would go with Twin. I didnt care as much for the sound of the ac30cc2, and i am guessing that version doesn’t sound like a hand wired ac30. The twin to me nails the sound of Keith Richards open G chord riffs when cranked up with a tele with a humbucker in the neck. It also has a blues sound that is very natural. Not to forget what a brain pedal does to it with my hot rod. However, in most of those situations, cranked , the amp is too loud for what i would use it for. I got the ac300cc2 for the wife, nut recently sold it. Have had the twin up and off reverb with a local pick up option for the past few months. I dont have a box for it, or i would have considered shipping. Thats not because its not a great amp, it is. I just dont get the chance to crank it, almost ever. And on low settings , like 2, it is not as wow as one would like. So if you guys have a box that fits it, let me know.
     
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