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Discussion in 'Ampage Area' started by WannaGretsch, Feb 25, 2018.
Are there any clones of this time machine???
Don't that have the oil can in it?
Fender made one in the SF era that was pretty cool.
my buddy just sold this one.
Are you talking about the Ray Butts Echosonic amplifier? The outboard echo pictured above ain't that...
Right you are, i was thinking of this.
I think means the briefcase style amp that Ray Butts made in the 50s but a repro of this above would be super swell too.
So what are we talking about, WannaGretsch??
Sorry, yeah talking about the amp like Scotty Moore and so many others played!
Parenthetical comment: Deke Dickerson owns one of Scotty Moore's actual Butts amplifiers.
Check this out.
The Echosonic amp was a basic amp with the addition of a mono tape deck with multiple playback heads built into the bottom. The real problem is finding mono 1/4" record, playback and erase heads. Even finding 1/4" new raw tape is an issue. You could possibly do a one off unit, but, any mass production would be unlikely.
Fun vid Wildeman! Thanks!
The way to do it is basically build an amp with a Nocturne Mystery Brain built in. No muss, no fuss, just good throwback tone.
Your right of course, There is obviously potential for disaster with the original rig live, but it would just be soooo cool to have the real deal. I'll just continue with my DM-2w and my Vintage Sound 22SC
Hey all - FYI, anyone looking for parts to replicate a tape delay transport board for these amps should look at the Viking Full-Fidelity model 75 reel-to-reel transports. They have the mono heads required, and are the same Dynamu heads (originally made by Magnetronic) used in Ray's amps. The Viking model RP61 tube preamps for these reel-to-reels have the Viking transformer, that is also found bolted onto the chassis in the Ray Butts EchoSonic and Rickenbacker Ek-O-Sound amps, for the erase circuit. Also, the tape boards for these amps had one Erase head, and two Record/Play (RP) heads; the RP heads were spaced a bit apart from each other, at a distance after the Erase head. The 1st RP recorded the guitar's sound right from the output transformer onto the tape, and when the tape traveled down to the other RP head, that head played the recorded portion thru the amp again, creating the echo. Interestingly, Ray's patent shows that the 2nd RP head would be adjustable, so as to modify the delay time, but this feature was not implemented into builds. I've had great success using most good types of tape found at HAMFests and online sites; the good stuff is often found on the large 10.5" tape reels.
you guys.. why didnt you listen to me yrs ago, I told you what to get. I even put some real muneee into the whole thing.
The Teisco oil can was licensed to many.. Here's how mine sounded.
Catalinbread' ADINEKO winner!!
ohh wait... you meant the Echosonic Ray butts sound?? Oh well I got that here, right here boys. Space Echo, Echoplex, and Echosonic all that here in this box. The key is the interplay of the preamps in here. Even the photocell vibrato has a preamp along w the Echo circuits input preamp and of course the switchable brain preamp in front of it all.
Hey TV - super-cool man. Although I personally don't care for the oil delay units, how's it been treating you?
As well, did you make that Mystery Brain effexor? Either way, just wondering if it has a tape 'wow' and/or 'flutter' feature, so simulate tape wear / speed variations, that are often inherent in these technologies. Scotty Moore said he later used a BOSS CE-2 pedal to simulate this sound. And yes, there's a bit of vibrato effect, as a result of fluctuating pitch with tape speed variations. PS - anyone looking for a demagnetizer should look up the "Han-D-Mag" ones made by R.B. Annis (rbannis.com); they're great!!
While I know the OP isn't asking about the Adineko. I've got one. I think it's nice. It's not my most used delay/echo, but it's surely not the least used. If not my second or third most used.
Dunno if anyone's interested, but just for the record, I've had a few days now with my new Strymon El Capistan.
Still don't completely know how to operate it.
But - I like. In fact - I really like.
My first thought when I read the original post was Tavo’s Mystery Brain. Sounds like a slam dunk modern equivalent. I just wish I could justify investing in a MB but I’m a hack home player with limited resources.