Vintage ‘50s Electromatic 6191

Discussion in 'Vintage Gretsch Discussion' started by 6124Bassman, Apr 6, 2019.

  1. 6124Bassman

    6124Bassman Gretschie

    418
    May 20, 2018
    Tempe, Arizona
    Hey everyone,

    Today I have the chance to pick up a ‘50s Gretsch 6191 electromatic (streamliner?). Can anyone tell me about these, and about how much they’re worth? It’s all original except the tuners, and missing pickguard. The binding is completely intact, very clean! Original case as well! Here’s some pictures!

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  2. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Oooh, that's a pretty one;). I would think one that nice could bring 1500.00 to 2000.00 pretty easily. I can't tell from the pic if the headstock wings are cracked, they usually are so factor in that repair if its needed.
     
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  3. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Since it's already modded with those Grovers it would be a good candidate for a 6120 conversion too:)
     
  4. 6124Bassman

    6124Bassman Gretschie

    418
    May 20, 2018
    Tempe, Arizona
    I did some looking online, and it seems that most that I could find were in the $2700-3000 range, but I figured since those were shops selling them it was a little high.

    Hahahahaha yeah, right...
     
  5. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Yeah, I'm talking real street pricing.
     
  6. 6124Bassman

    6124Bassman Gretschie

    418
    May 20, 2018
    Tempe, Arizona
    Yep, and I appreciate your input! These old electromatics/streamliners seem to be kind of hard to find info on.

    I'm going to check out the guitar in a couple hours. I'm excited to try out the dynasonic pickup, I haven't played one before.
     
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  7. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    I just bought a fixer upper '57 for 1100.00. It was a good deal for sure but it does need some work, a brace needs glueing (very difficult) and the inlays are coming loose. I need to get to work on it!:oops: 20170209_135316.jpg
     
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  8. 6124Bassman

    6124Bassman Gretschie

    418
    May 20, 2018
    Tempe, Arizona
    The one is beautiful, I wish the one I'm going to look at today was sun burst like that one is :eek:
     
  9. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Good luck!
     
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  10. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Thanks, i really do need to get on it, ive had it like a year already and still haven't played it yet.
     
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  11. 6124Bassman

    6124Bassman Gretschie

    418
    May 20, 2018
    Tempe, Arizona
    Oh I know how it is, see that Country Gent in my picture?? I'm sure you might remember a thread a while back when I got it, and it needed a neck reset and complete rebinding. Well that never happened, too much money so I sold it...
     
  12. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    I have been contemplating a second pickup on this one for a while, it would sure make that brace repair easier. I took it to a luthier and he wanted to remove the back.....i wasn't in to that.
     
  13. 6124Bassman

    6124Bassman Gretschie

    418
    May 20, 2018
    Tempe, Arizona
    I'd be hesitant about that as well. Well if you convert it to a 6120 that be pretty sweet as well. I'm just always scared to do mods like that personally.
     
  14. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Country Gent

    Mar 6, 2014
    Phoenix, AZ
    Ugh, that’s my guitar, I mean it should be mine. I’m assuming local no less...Enjoy, and don’t convert it :)
     
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  15. Wayne Gretschzky

    Wayne Gretschzky Country Gent

    Aug 27, 2008
    East Coast
    It's probably difficult to find info if you call it an "Electromatic"... search "Streamliner" and you should find lots. Unfortunately since Gretsch/FMIC have recycled the Streamliner name for some modern models searching the net is harder... be sure to search "vintage Streamliner". Or... just buy that 6120 book as there is a ton of info on all the vintage Streamliner models.

    Here a photo of one I used to own that looks a little like the one you're considering. I think I sold it for $1500 about 4 years ago.

    '54 6191 #124xx**.jpeg
     
  16. 6124Bassman

    6124Bassman Gretschie

    418
    May 20, 2018
    Tempe, Arizona
    Yes its local, and honestly, I'd be willing to sell it to you if I do end up picking it up... Just act fast before I get attached! I'm getting it in part of a trade so I'd be willing to turn around and let it go.

    perfect thank you! I was searching streamliner as well as electromatic. Like you said, with the new lines of streamliners it made it hard to sort through vintage and modern.
     
  17. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Country Gent

    Mar 6, 2014
    Phoenix, AZ
    Cool, let me know. Post up some more pics when you get the chance!
     
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  18. 6124Bassman

    6124Bassman Gretschie

    418
    May 20, 2018
    Tempe, Arizona
    Of course, will do!
     
  19. drmilktruck

    drmilktruck Gretschified

    May 17, 2009
    Plymouth, MN
    From the Blue Book:

    In 1955, this model was renamed the Streamliner with new specs: double-bound maple top, double-bound back, single-bound f-holes, a single-bound fingerboard, no zig-zag pattern on headstock, G tailpiece, only one pickup, and new finishes. In 1957, double-bound f-holes were introduced.

    1955-1959 Streamliner

    $2,000 - Mint
    $1,600 - EXC+
    $1,300 - EXC
    $1,000 - VG+
    $800 - VG
    $650 - G

    PS Buy the 6120 book if you haven't already, along with the Ball's 50s Gretsch manual. Essential books for Gretsch fans.

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    Last edited: Apr 6, 2019
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  20. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

    Age:
    53
    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    The natural finish is "da bomb"!
    From my experience the priceranges that Jim researched in the black-book are real world prices.
     
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