Thoughts on the 5620T and go....

Discussion in 'Electromatic Gretsch Forum' started by SWoody, Nov 6, 2018.

  1. SWoody

    SWoody Electromatic

    96
    Aug 27, 2018
    PA
    I've found a couple reasonably priced 5620T's but I don't see them mentioned or anyone playing them. Thoughts pro and con??? Thanks.
     
  2. Mr Swisher

    Mr Swisher Gretschie

    287
    Jun 12, 2012
    England
    I love mine.

    It looks great, plays great & I love the way the Blacktops & centreblock work together. Only upgrade I made was swapping the bridge for a Compton.

    Play one, it's perhaps not a pure "Gretsch" sound - so it really depends on what sound you're after. I use it mainly for rock/dirt stuff. It's also weighty. Playing it for an hour or so standing up is a workout.

    Having said that..it's the guitar in my collection I'd find it hardest to part with.
     

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  3. Henry

    Henry Gretschified

    Apr 9, 2014
    Petaluma
    Pay attention to the generation, as there are 2 versions. The newer gen is lighter and has slightly better electronics. It will not say electromatic on the headstock, but on the pickguard. I personally love the super hilotron if it has one.
     
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  4. Sid Nitzerglobin

    Sid Nitzerglobin Country Gent

    Jun 8, 2015
    fROMOHIO
    I love my previous gen one. Modded it up pretty well (B6 for the B7, Copper Compton, TVJ Classic+ and SuperTron, bone nut), but stock it was pretty awesome as well and really pretty versatile. I find mine post mods has a lot more of what I'd consider "classic" Gretsch sounds and some nice jazzy cleans as well, and covers everything up to doom on the dirt continuum from there.

    The only downside is the weight, every one I've picked up is at least 10+ lbs. I guess one other con is the pretty bad high fret access, but that's going to be the case w/ most of the long neck joint Gretsches.
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    It's probably my favorite Electromatic I've owned.
     
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  5. SWoody

    SWoody Electromatic

    96
    Aug 27, 2018
    PA
    Do you know what year the 2nd gen started or about? The one's I'm considering are around 2013-14. I played one and it didn't seem THAT heavy. Thx
     
  6. Sid Nitzerglobin

    Sid Nitzerglobin Country Gent

    Jun 8, 2015
    fROMOHIO
    '13 & '14 will be the early permutation. Mine's a '15. Key identifiers for the current ones will be the narrower headstock w/o the Electromatic text on it (they moved it to the pickguard). It wears the weight pretty well and doesn't seem to produce any acute points of discomfort, but playing it w/ the band for a couple hours was every bit as fatiguing as my heaviest Les Pauls.

    I think I recall seeing my first of the reworked 562x ones in late 2017 so probably the 2018 model year???
     
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  7. radd

    radd Synchromatic

    559
    Dec 27, 2017
    Santa cruz
    Fantastic guitar. Fit and finish rivals my Gretsch Pro Tennessee Rose.


    Mods: locking tuners, Bigsby Fix, cream pick guard, ABM 2400 roller bridge and Dunlop strap locks.




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  8. I have a first gen 5620. I’ve modded it quite a bit (ABM roller bridge, TVJ Classic+ and TVJ Supertron, treble bleed on MV, new pots for MV and tone, strap locks). You might think that the stock guitar wasn’t that good. But just the opposite. I wouldn’t do these mods if I didn’t think the stock guitar was good. I just made it better, at least for me. I mod most of my guitars.
     
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  9. Merc

    Merc Gretschie

    333
    May 6, 2017
    Florida
    I had no idea they made them a little lighter/without the Electro headstock because I’ve never seen one without it. Thanks for posting.

    Always yearned for a cat eyes Gretsch. Wish they'd do a pro-line with them again so one wouldn’t have to mod so much
     
  10. CNPCNP

    CNPCNP Synchromatic

    506
    Jan 3, 2015
    NL
    Hey, so it IS possible to go for a non-tension bar Bigsby on the 5620/5622, nice!
    Or did you have to increase bridge height significantly ?
     
  11. Sid Nitzerglobin

    Sid Nitzerglobin Country Gent

    Jun 8, 2015
    fROMOHIO
    Yep and nope ;)

    Break angle is probably in the 5.5-6.5 degree region w/ bridge height and action not really changed significantly from where I had it w/ the B70 (pretty low)

    Zero issues w/ sitar/wolf tones/buzzy/dead strings w/ NYXL .010-.046 that could indicate too little break angle and the strings all seem to stay put just fine on the Compton as hard as I want to beat on them and sustain as expected.

    Edit: here's a pic of the bridge area, not really lined up optimally to show the break, but you can get the idea of bridge height pretty well. It's still got a few threads worth of downward adjustment left on the high side and a couple more than that on the low side but it's fairly close to decked.
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  12. CNPCNP

    CNPCNP Synchromatic

    506
    Jan 3, 2015
    NL
    That's great news! Thought to be 'convicted' to a tension-bar Bigsby on the 5622 (or the BricksBiggsFix) , but yours is the first example I see that proves otherwise.

    At least I assume the 5622 & 5622 are identical in this respect...

    I'm using heavier strings so that might help as well.

    I'm spoilt for the V-Cut look, so the plan is pretty clear here now! ;-)

    Thanks!
     
  13. Sid Nitzerglobin

    Sid Nitzerglobin Country Gent

    Jun 8, 2015
    fROMOHIO
    No problem.

    I've never taken detailed measurements and compared between the 5620 and 5622 or of a V1 vs. V2 on either model, but I'd be really surprised if there was any difference in the relevant geometry between the 2 models in the same generation and only slightly less surprised if they changed them going to V2. All of the ones I've handled have seemed like the same guitars aside from the top cutaway (and number of pickups on the V1) on the 5622.
     
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  14. CNPCNP

    CNPCNP Synchromatic

    506
    Jan 3, 2015
    NL
    From when I had to decide between the 5620 & 5622 (both V1), I recall that I saw some differences like the number of frets and pickup location. But indeed, most likely nothing related to the 'string-path'.

    BTW, the Chet arm on your 5620 looks nice as well!
     
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  15. section2

    section2 Synchromatic

    528
    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
    I love my 5620T.
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    Mods:
    • Swapped B70 for B6C
    • Replaced stock tone pots with CTS 500k audio taper pots
    • Replaced stock bridge with Bigsby rocker bridge on floating base (not really necessary, but a fun project)
    • Added a jack plate
    • Swapped out the 1/4"-thick magnet in the bridge pickup for a vintage Filtertron-style 1/2"-inch thick magnet (also not necessary, but I was curious and I can't leave well enough alone)
    These are fantastic guitars with great tone. As others have mentioned, the only quibble is the weight. Mine is a 2014 model, and it tips the scales at about 9.5 pounds. The newer models have chambered center blocks for reduced weight.
     
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  16. section2

    section2 Synchromatic

    528
    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
    I should let you know that my G5620T has been giving me a strange wolf tone on the high E string since I replaced the B70 with a B6C. I've added rubber grommets behind the bridge, and they help a little, but I'm considering drilling the top and installing a Towner Down Tension Bar so I can adjust the string break and eliminate the wolf tones entirely.
     
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  17. radd

    radd Synchromatic

    559
    Dec 27, 2017
    Santa cruz
    I thought there was to much break angle on my 5620 stock, so I just added the Bigsby Fix along with the other mods, like the ABM roller bridge.

    With the fix

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    Stock break angle
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  18. Merc

    Merc Gretschie

    333
    May 6, 2017
    Florida
    Unless someone has seen one with the smaller headstock, I don’t believe they made any. If they did it’s a rare bird. Looking into it, at the NAMM 17 when they announced the smaller head stocks on the Electromatics they said the cat eye holes were gone as well. Sounds like 16 was the last year produced.

    I’ve been toying with the idea of picking one up to have a CB I can mod. So I’ve reached out to some for sale. So far the 16’s have been the best in weight. One is weighing in at 9 lb even. But the lightest is 8 lb 11.5 oz. Will have to decide soon before she’s gone.
     
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  19. thunder58

    thunder58 Gretschified

    Age:
    60
    Dec 23, 2010
    tappan ny
    See everybody ............................. radd has a jack plate
     
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  20. section2

    section2 Synchromatic

    528
    Dec 21, 2016
    Toronto
    That's interesting. I know they make newer versions of the 5622, which is a double-cut center block guitar. I just assumed that they also made newer 5620s, but I don't see any on the Gretsch website. You must be right.

    Do it! Fabulous guitar.
     
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