Take A Look At My Nut?

Discussion in 'Electromatic Gretsch Forum' started by Ian4242, Mar 9, 2019.

  1. Ian4242

    Ian4242 Electromatic

    5
    Mar 8, 2019
    USA
    So as a follow up to my previous post, are there glaring issues you can see with my nut? Could you show me how to identify them if there are? I've never owned a guitar with this kind of a tuning issue before and I'm kind of fretting about it (haha).
     

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  2. dlew919

    dlew919 Gretschie

    474
    Jul 18, 2016
    Sydney, Australia
    I think the strings need to be parallel with the top of the nut. Others will confirm.


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  3. Bertotti

    Bertotti Country Gent

    Jul 20, 2017
    South Dakota
    What I have had happen on my nuts is on the fretboard side make sure none of the nut area is undercut away from the fretboard. This will slightly increase string length and cause a weird tuning issue up the neck. Where the string leaves the nut to the tuners I tend to work my nut slot so the string can leave the nut at a better angle towards the tuning machine. If it is rubbing on the edge of a nut slot going straight through it can catch at times. You may also hear it pop while tuning it up if it is catching or when using the Bigsby heavily. Those are things I have had happen on my own guitars.
     
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  4. radd

    radd Synchromatic

    977
    Dec 27, 2017
    Santa cruz
    Hard to tell but it looks like there is no flair on the tuner side of each nut slot and it looks like the strings could easily be binding there.

    I would just spend the $ and have it professionally dressed.
     
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  5. calebaaron666

    calebaaron666 Country Gent

    Aug 15, 2018
    Portland, Maine
    I agree with @radd. I’d bring it to someone to dress it for you. It’s a nerve-racking experience having a guitar that can’t keep tune.
     
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  6. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    For starters I would take a millimeter off the top of the nut. Strings run over a nut, not through.
    If anything the string notches look a bit too wide but clearly binding at the exitpoint (tuner side)
    Like the notches have been cut parallel to the fretboard where they should be cut in the same angle as the headstock.
     
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  7. audept

    audept Senior Gretsch-Talker

    Age:
    71
    Dec 1, 2010
    Sydney, Australia
    Which is the reason I favor narrow headstocks like the Jet 1962 doublecut versions with very straight string pull through to the tuners. No "tone detours" !
     
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  8. Ricochet

    Ricochet Gretschified

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    I'm completely baffled by well respected booteeky builders who take liberties with exotic string angles.
     
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  9. TSims1

    TSims1 Friend of Fred

    Jun 18, 2013
    Atlanta
    The slots/grooves appear to be cut too deep, and as mentioned above the slots also need to be opened up on the back(tuner)side. Hopefully the bottom of the slots are smooth as well, and be liberal with the lube.


    This is a very simple and inexpensive fix in the hands of a good tech. Go get a properly dressed nut and you’ll discover a world of difference. Good luck!
     
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  10. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

    Age:
    53
    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    Tuning issues are always a matter of friction. Angled strings cause friction. On first sight it looks like the string-angle on your nut is very sharp. This and the shape of the slots could cause your tuning problem.
    (The shape of the slots should not be rounded and not v-shaped. It schould be more like rectangular with a little v on the sides. So the string will only touch the nut at the very botton and the sides of their diameter.)
     
  11. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    Take a look at my nut, its the only one i got. Not much of a nut, doesn't seem to get alot.
     
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