Single coils on E-matic?

Discussion in 'Electromatic Gretsch Forum' started by rbpicker, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. rbpicker

    rbpicker Electromatic

    Nov 5, 2010
    SE Michigan
    I just played a new (maybe old stock) 5422T at GC that had the single coil pickups with the G design on them. Black insert with gold G.

    What pickups would those have been?

    It sounded great and played very well for just coming off the wall at GC. It’s on sale, so I’m tempted.

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  2. rbpicker

    rbpicker Electromatic

    Nov 5, 2010
    SE Michigan
    I think I just answered my own question. Looking at the website, I see a Super HiloTron listed on some E-Matic 5422 models. Cream pickguard, chrome hardware. Only one set of pole pieces show, so I thought they were single coils. would someone confirm this for me? I’m still pretty green, Gretsch-wise.
  3. tartanphantom

    tartanphantom Country Gent

    Jul 30, 2008
    Murfreesboro, TN
    Super HiLos are dual coil pickups. There is a second coil under the cover with non-adjustable pole pieces.
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  4. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Country Gent

    Mar 6, 2014
    Phoenix, AZ
    Yes those are modern designed pickups, and a dual coil humbucker, voiced to be a little bright like a Hilo I suppose.
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  5. loudnlousy

    loudnlousy Friend of Fred

    Oct 18, 2015
    Hildesheim, Germany
    I do not know anything about super hilos. But the original vintage hilos are super-yummie.
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  6. section2

    section2 Country Gent

    Dec 21, 2016
    Yep, those are SuperHilotrons. They're dual-coil pickups voiced to sound like single-coils without the hum. I love the SuperHilotron in my 5620.

    The original vintage Hilotrons were single-coil pickups.
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  7. John Drummond

    John Drummond Gretschie

    Feb 26, 2016
    United Kingdom
    I have a set of Hilotrons that I fitted to my testbed G2420T streamliner and they've stayed there ever since, their very low output (3.9k Bridge & 3.4k Neck) but have a truly beautiful sound. I believe their out of a 2006 Tennesse Rose.
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  8. S.R.Cash

    S.R.Cash Gretschie

    Aug 29, 2019
    Ontario, Canada
    This is damned interesting! I gotta ask about those inlays! How'd they get in there?
  9. KuKuKu

    KuKuKu Gretschie

    Aug 28, 2016
    John, what's that armrest and how did you install it? In summer when I wear t-shirts my naked forearm always sticks to the guitar body as if it was glued there. I can't move it and that affects my playing. It's so annoying that I wear a cut off sock over my forearm. I was thinking maybe an armrest would solve this problem ...
  10. John Drummond

    John Drummond Gretschie

    Feb 26, 2016
    United Kingdom
    It's simply attached by a piece of double sided tape (wasn't sure if I was keeping on) there are also 2 holes in it so you could screw to the edge binding if you wanted to. heres a link to the exact one I bought.

    @S.R.Cash They are just stickers I got off evilbay, if i need to do any work on the guitar I have to take everything through the bridge pickup cavity anyway (the older streamliners had much smaller F-holes than the 2019 onwards).
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  11. stiv

    stiv Synchromatic

    Sep 12, 2014
    Florence, Italy
    I’ve been impressed by the Hi-Los since I owned the Rally.
    Very, very nice pickups. The low output helps my Hiwatt to bring some better harmonics up a lot I found them not so Gretsch-sounding like a Filter or a Dyna, but I already have that twang on some other guitar.
    A real discover. They’re perfect for blues tones.
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  12. KuKuKu

    KuKuKu Gretschie

    Aug 28, 2016
  13. Dyna

    Dyna Electromatic

    Nov 16, 2016
    Portland Or
    Anywhere we can see how these sound in this guitar, John?
  14. hcsterg

    hcsterg Country Gent

    Feb 13, 2012
    I never had the occasion to play a HiloTron Gretsch, but I do have 2 Dual Coil Super HiloTron Gretsch :


    The DC SHT are humbuckers - see below a DC SHT and a BT FT side to side :


    The DCR of the DC SHT is circa 4.5K, like a BT FT or a HS FT.

    Think of a crisp, warm, sweet tone, like a single coil but not thin thanks to the 2nd slug coil. The output level is a bit lower than a HS FT, but certainly higher than a HiloTron and probably with a different tone...

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