This is my second old Cube, my first (Cube 60 chorus) is in semi-retirement needind a cap job. This one is a Cube 20 with an 8" speaker , yes 20w can totally make this speaker fart out but at about 4 with the master cranked this is a killer sounding little amp and when these two pedals are added .....I'd put it up against any high dollar little Valco amp. When you hear about "good pedal platform" amp, these Cubes are what i imagine, they are pretty good on their own but if you have some nice pedals they go next level. Absolute bargains, this was marked at 100 bux and i got my 60 for 75 bux at a thrift. The Cube 60 has a big magnet 12" in it and sends Deluxe Reverbs running for cover.