Question about ukulele model

Discussion in 'Gretsch "Roots" Acoustic Forum' started by comma, Aug 7, 2019.

  1. comma

    comma Newbie

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    Aug 2, 2019
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    Hey guys! New to Gretsch. I have a Jimy Dandy but looking to get a roots uke.
    Every vintage Gretsch uke I have seen has the pegs in the back, and all of their roots versions have them on the sides. Why is this? I thought the roots series was supposed to copy vintage models.

    I did see this product shot on Amazon, but contacted the sellers and they said the ones they have are with the tuners on the side.

    Does this uke exist or is this just a weirdly edited stock image?

    Thanks!

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  2. MTurner

    MTurner Friend of Fred

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    I can't answer your question, but I can welcome you to Gretsch - Talk!
     
  3. thunder58

    thunder58 I Bleed Orange

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    Welcome friend . Can't help ya either , but someone will be here soon to help ya :)
     
  4. comma

    comma Newbie

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    Thanks for the welcomes guys!
     
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  5. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

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  6. wabash slim

    wabash slim Friend of Fred

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    Rear mounted tuners are traditional. Originally they were friction fit---no gearing. Similar to violin tuners, they often slipped. The rear mount banjo style tuners came afterwards. Later side mounted units were taken from guitars.
     
  7. wildeman

    wildeman Gretschified

    May 10, 2015
    norcal
    I have a 100 year old uke with friction tuners, it is a beautiful instrument but trust me, you don't want friction tuners.
     
  8. comma

    comma Newbie

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    Aug 2, 2019
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    Thanks guys, but I'm still curious, does gretsch make the ukulele pictured in my original post with the rear mounted tuners?
     
  9. Ricochet

    Ricochet I Bleed Orange

    Nov 13, 2009
    Monkey Island
    The 9100 and 9110(in the pic) have banjo tuners, the 9120 has side “guitar” tuners unless they changed specs...
     
  10. Runamok

    Runamok Gretschie

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    Aug 25, 2017
    USA midwest
    Not much help here, I’m afraid.
    Maybe they changed during a model year. You can see the same sort of changes in other maker’s lines.

    If you can’t get one like this — it probably doesn’t matter much. The advice about slipping friction tuners is golden.

    Still trying to figure out what a “roots” uke is.
    Beyond one of those grating “pop” terms like “old school.”
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2019
  11. Cassotto

    Cassotto Gretschie

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    Completely agree with the friction tuners. They're bad enough in a uke with four strings, but I want to die every time I need to tune my 12-string bandurria (which I can hardly play at all, by the way):

    Bandurria.jpg


    Funny, I had never realised almost all ukeleles you see nowadays have side tuners. Mine -a very cheap one made by Hora in Romania- has rear mechanical tuners.
     
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  12. Cassotto

    Cassotto Gretschie

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    I found this:

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    It looks like smaller models (soprano and concert) have rear tuners, while bigger ones (tenor) have side tuners. All of them are mechanical (screw) ones, not friction.

    I'd never thought of this sort of differences in terms of size, but with bowed istruments, smaller ones (violin, viola and, er, cello) have friction tuners, while double basses have mechanical tuners.

    Will it be because the higher the tension, the more secure the tuning system must be? Mechanical tuners are certainly better than friction ones as to stability and ease of tuning is concerned; as for rear vs. side tuners, I don't know whether they are significantly different, but I have the impression that rear tuners evolved towards side ones, so maybe that's an improvement, too.


    Edited to add: in case someone wants to see a bigger version of the photo (the forum has automatically chosen the shown size), it's here: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/65/9c/49/659c49bf7a5fcb1e499d8c56cd878fc5.jpg
     
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